MJ wrongful death suit / kitkat gegen AEG

  • ..oh Mann..was für'n Drama :depri :heulsuse :sad


    Debbie Rowe: Paris Jackson 'has no life' since father's death
    By Alan Duke, CNN
    updated 3:22 PM EDT, Thu August 15, 2013
    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08…on-death-trial/index.html



    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    NEW: "I almost lost my daughter!" Debbie Rowe testifies
    Ex-wife describes Michael Jackson's skin problems, pains and drug use
    "Everyone says he bleached himself, but he didn't," Debbie Rowe says
    Doctors had "a pissing contest" over who could give Jackson "the better drug," she says


    Los Angeles (CNN) -- The mother of Michael Jackson's two oldest children broke down in tears when she was asked to describe the impact of the singer's death on his daughter Paris.
    "Their father is dead," Debbie Rowe responded. "I almost lost my daughter! She is devastated. She tried to kill herself. She is devastated. She has no life. She doesn't feel she has a life anymore."
    Paris, 15, attempted suicide in early June and is still being treated in a facility for her emotional problems.
    Jurors sitting for a 70th day of testimony in the wrongful death trial of Jackson's last concert promoter have laughed loudly at time during colorful testimony of Rowe, who alternated between tears and jokes.
    When she and Jackson divorced after their three-year marriage in 1999, the singer "got custody of the doctors," she joked Wednesday.
    Rowe returned to the witness stand Thursday for a second day of testimony in the small Los Angeles courtroom. She was ordered to testify about the singer's drug use by lawyers for AEG Live, the concert promoter being sued by Jackson's mother and three children.
    Wednesday's questioning by AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putnam centered on Jackson's use of prescription drugs -- to deal with pain from scalp surgery, and two times in Germany, where doctors used the surgical anesthetic propofol to treat his insomnia.
    Thursday's testimony, however, began with Rowe's description of Jackson's skin problems, which included vitiligo -- a condition in which his pigment disappeared, leaving large white spots on his face, hands and body.
    "Everyone says he bleached himself, but he didn't," Rowe said. Many of his visits to Dr. Arnold Klein, the Beverly Hills dermatologist where she worked for 18 years as a medical assistant, were to treat the condition, she testified.
    Jackson compared himself to the "Elephant Man," a 19th-century Englishman who became a circus sideshow curiosity because of severe disfigurements, she said.
    "He was worried that people would see the disease or the disfigurement before they would see him working sometimes," Rowe testified.
    He also suffered from discoid lupus, which made his skin tissue "mushy," especially on his scalp, she said. Jackson's scalp was severely burned during a pyrotechnics accident while he was filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984.
    MJ's insomnia struggle
    Two German doctors treated Jackson's insomnia with propofol 12 years before he died from an overdose of the surgical anesthetic, Rowe testified Wednesday.
    Dr. Allen Metzger -- Jackson's general practitioner in the United States -- arranged for the German anesthesiologists to infuse the singer with propofol in a Munich hotel in July 1997 after sedatives failed to help him sleep between concerts, Rowe testified.
    "I think they tried it and it hadn't worked, and if he couldn't sleep, he couldn't perform," she testified. Jackson "was at the end of his rope; he didn't know what else to do."
    He "felt better" after eight hours of propofol-induced sleep and decided to get a second treatment after his second Munich show, she said.
    Metzger testified at the criminal trial of Dr. Conrad Murray that he was never involved in propofol treatments for Jackson and was not aware of the drug until much later.
    Rowe backed away from her previous statement during a deposition, in which she said doctors also gave Jackson propofol infusions in hotels in France during the HIStory tour, in the late 1990s.
    AEG Live contends that Jackson used propofol for years to treat his insomnia, including when Rowe was traveling with him in Europe in the 1990s.
    The coroner ruled Jackson died on June 25, 2009, from a propofol overdose administered by Murray, who is serving a prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter.
    AEG Live executives, who were promoting and producing Jackson's comeback concerts, had no way of knowing that Murray was infusing him with propofol each night for two months in the spring of 2009, AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam said in his opening statements 16 weeks ago.
    "Almost no one knew until after his death," Putnam said. "AEG Live certainly didn't know about it."
    The Jackson family's lawyers contend that the promoters ignored warning signs that Jackson's health was deteriorating in the two months before his death. Instead of getting him to another doctor who might have saved his life, they gave Murray the responsibility of getting Jackson to rehearsals, they argue.
    Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, and three of her children contend AEG Live is liable in his death because it negligently hired, retained or supervised Murray. The company's agreement to pay Murray $150,000 a month put the doctor in a conflict of interest because he was in deep debt and could not risk losing the job by refusing Jackson's demands for propofol, their lawyers contend.
    AEG Live argues that while its executives negotiated with Murray to serve as Jackson's physician for the "This Is It" tour, it was Jackson who chose and controlled the doctor.
    "Getting a grip' on MJ's pain
    Jackson underwent surgery in 1993 to repair burns suffered in the 1984 accident, including placement of a balloon under his scalp to stretch it over several months, Rowe testified.
    His doctors "couldn't get a grip of the pain" the procedure caused and two doctors "were having a pissing contest over who gave him the better drug," she said.
    "Michael had a very low pain tolerance, and his fear of pain was incredible," Rowe testified. "And I think that doctors took advantage of him that way."
    Rowe said many of the doctors who treated Jackson were "idiots," including the dermatologist she worked for from 1979 until she quit in 1996 before she married Jackson.
    "Michael respected doctors immensely, that they went to school, that they studied ... to do no harm," Rowe said. "Unfortunately, some of the doctors decided that when Michael was in pain or something that they would try to outbid on who could give him the better drug, and so he listened to those doctors."
    Metzger tailored a plan to help Jackson withdraw from dependence on demerol, a powerful painkiller given him because of the scalp pain, she said. That plan, however, was derailed when Jackson resumed traveling on his "Dangerous" tour, she said.
    After six weeks, when the tour reached Mexico City (in autumn 1993), Jackson was "a hot mess," she said.
    "He was depressed," she said. "He had taken something. I don't know what he had taken or who he had got it from."
    After a three-day argument with Jackson, Rowe said, she convinced him to end his tour early and enter a drug rehabilitation program.
    "You need to straighten up," she said she told Jackson. "You need to face whatever it is that is going on and we'll get through this."
    Jackson eventually announced publicly that he was entering a rehab program to deal with an addiction to prescription drugs.
    Rowe said Jackson's drug use was not a secret among people in the "Dangerous" tour production. AEG Live Co-CEO Paul Gongaware, who was the over the "This Is It" production when Jackson died, was also tour manager for the "Dangerous" tour.
    One revelation from Rowe was that a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon faked doing a procedure on Jackson on two occasions, although he told the singer he had done it. Jackson complained about painful scars in his nose and went to Dr. Steven Hoefflin to inject them with collagen, she said.
    "He put Michael out and didn't do anything but put tape on him as if he had treated him," Rowe testified. The doctor told her he did that because he could not find the scars Jackson thought were there.
    Thursday is the 70th day of testimony in the trial, which the judge told jurors would likely be given to them for deliberations in late September.

  • ...hier sind ein paar Tweets von Ivy... zusammengefasst aus einem Artikel der New York Daily News....




    Ivy ‏@Ivy_4MJ 4m


    NYDN: "Michael wanted to be a father. I didn't sign on to be a mom. I loved him very much and I still do," she said, breaking down in tears.


    NYDN: ".. Michael wollte ein Vater sein. Ich habe nicht unterzeichnet eine Mutter zu sein Ich liebte ihn sehr und tue es noch immer", sagte sie und brach in Tränen aus.



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    NYDN: Rowe said she had no regrets about "leaving" the kids with Michael when their 3-year marriage ended in divorce in 1999.
    NYDN: Rowe sagte, sie habe kein Bedauern über das "Verlassen" der Kinder als ihre 3-jährige Ehe mit Michael endete mit der Scheidung im Jahr 1999.
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    NYDN: "I said, 'You're going to be a dad!' I was pregnant," Rowe recalled. "He was so excited, he ran around the tarmac screaming."
    NYDN: "Ich sagte, 'Du wirst ein Vater sein!' Ich war schwanger ", erinnert sich Rowe. "Er war so aufgeregt, rannte über den Asphalt und schrie."


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    NYDN: Michael was getting ready to do a shoot but she convinced him to hop on back of her Harley so they could find a private spot to talk
    NYDN: Michael war bereit für ein Shooting zu tun, aber sie überzeugte ihn, auf dem Rücken ihrer Harley hop zu kommen, so dass sie einen privaten Ort finden konnten um zu reden
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    NYDN: She rode her Harley Davidson motorcycle to meet Michael on the Van Nuys Airport set of his short film "Ghosts" and break the baby news
    NYDN: Sie fuhr ihre Harley Davidson Motorrad um Michael zu treffen auf dem Van Nuys Flughafen, Set für seinen Kurzfilm "Ghosts" und eröffnete die Baby News.


    _______________________
    Edit:
    Ivy ‏@Ivy_4MJ 6m
    LAT: Asked about her relationship with Prince she shrugged. "We don't hate each other, if that's what you mean. I'm closer to my daughter."
    LT: Gefragt nach ihrer Beziehung mit Prince zuckt sie. "Wir hassen uns nicht, wenn es das ist was Sie meinen, ich bin näher mit meiner Tochter."

  • ...gestern wurde auch noch die Deposition von Dr. Slavit gezeigt, der im Februar 2009 die Gesundheitsuntersuchung bei MJ für die Versicherung machte.
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    Dr. Slavit had been working with Bob Taylor for about 10 years prior to doing physical
    with MJ.
    Dr. Slavit arbeitet mit Bob Taylor seit etwa 10 Jahren zusammen vor der Untersuchung von mit MJ.
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    "I would require permission from MJ to do that (test for opiates or drugs)," Dr. Slavit said. There was no need at the time to test him.
    "Ich würde Erlaubnis von MJ benötigen um einen Test auf Opiate oder Drogen vorzunehmen", sagte Dr. Slavit. Es bestand keine Notwendigkeit zu der Zeit, ihn zu testen.
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    "I was never provided records," Dr. Slavit said. He never contacted Dr. Murray directly to get medical record.
    "Ich habe nie Aufzeichnungen erhalten", so Dr. Slavit. Er hat nie kontaktiert Dr. Murray um direkt an die Krankenakte zu kommen.
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    Dr. Slavit: My understanding my job was to find out if he was able physically to perform.
    Dr. Slavit: Mein Verständnis meiner Arbeit war es, herauszufinden, ob er in der Lage war die Perfomance phsy. durchzuführen
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    Dr. Slavit charges: $6,000 for service $3,000 lab and supply $5,849 for travel and hotel
    Dr. Slavit- Gebühren: $ 6,000 für Service- $ 3,000 Labor und Versorgung $ 5.849 für Reisekosten und Hotel
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    Dr. Slavit gave copy of the record to the Coroner pursuant to legal subpoena. Feb 2009 was the only time Dr. Slavit talked to MJ.
    Dr. Slavit gab Kopie der Akte an Gerichtsmedizin nach der gesetzlichen Vorladung. Februar 2009 war das einzige Mal das Dr. Slavit mit MJ gesprochen hat.
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    "In the course of reviewing his past medical history there were no surgeries reported," Dr. Slavit said.
    "Im Zuge der Überprüfung seiner Anamnese wurde über keine Operationen berichtet," sagtDr. Slavit.
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    Q: Did you notice any track mark on MJ when you examined him? A: There were none Q: Did you look his arms? A: Yes Q: His legs? A: Yes
    Q: Haben SieMarkierungen bei MJ als Sie ihn untersuchten? A: Es gab keine Q: Haben Sie auf seine Arme geschaut? A: Ja Q: Seine Beine? A: Ja
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    Height was self reported also. He told Dr. Slavit he was 5 foot 9. Dr. Slavit received full payment for the physical on Michael Jackson.
    Größe wurde auch selbst berichtet. Er erzählte Dr. Slavit er ist 5 Fuß 9. Dr. Slavit erhielt volle Bezahlung für die Untersuchung von Michael Jackson.


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    Temperature was 98 degrees. Weight: 127 lbs - MJ told him that's what he weighed. Q: Based on your examination, it appeared accurate? A: Yes
    Temperatur betrug 98 degrees. Gewicht: 127 lbs - MJ sagte ihm, dass er dies wiegt. Q: Basierend auf Ihrer Prüfung, schien es zu stimmen? A: Ja


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    When asked if he felt in good physical condition, Dr. Slavit said MJ responded yes. "That was his answer."
    Gefragt, ob er sich in guter körperlicher Verfassung fühlte, sagte MJ ja. "Das war seine Antwort."
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    MJ told Dr. Slavit he was last examined a couple of months prior for routine. Dr. Murray was identified as personal physician.
    MJ sagte Dr. Slavit er wurde zuletzt vor ein paar Monaten routinemäßig untersucht. Dr. Murray wurde als Leibarzt identifiziert.
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    Q: Was there any significant change of weight? A: No The question regarding excessive use of drugs or alcohol was circled 'no'.
    Q: Gab es eine signifikante Veränderung des Gewichts? A: Nein Die Frage nach übermäßigen Gebrauch von Alkohol oder Drogen wurde eingekreist 'no'.
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    There are questions on the form that were filled out during the physical. Dr. Slavit said MJ was the only source of the responses.
    Es gibt Fragen auf einem Formular, die während der körperlichen Untersuchung ausgefüllt werden. Dr. Slavit sagt das MJ die einzige Quelle der Antworten war.
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    At the time of the examination the form was filled out with Michael Jackson. We reviewed the form before he signed it.
    Zum Zeitpunkt der Prüfung wurde das Formualar mit Michael Jackson ausgefüllt. Wir haben das Formular durchgesehen, bevor er es unterzeichnete.
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    Q: Did MJ ask you to prescribe any medication? A: No Michael Jackson signed the forms. Dr. Slavit said he saw MJ sign it.
    Q: Hat MJ Sie gebeten Medikamente zu verschreiben? A: Nein. Michael Jackson unterzeichnete das Formular. Dr. Slavit sagte, er sah MJ unterschreiben.
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    There was an acknowledgment of the need for rest or avoidance of exhaustion.
    Es war eine Anerkennung für die Notwendigkeit von Ruhe oder Vermeidung von Erschöpfung.
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    MJ visited his laryngologist for minor issues, seemed proactive and attune to his health.
    MJ besuchte seinen laryngologist für kleinere Probleme, schien proaktiv und angemessen zu seiner Gesundheit.
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    Dr. Slavit wrote MJ was in good health, good diet and exercise. He interacted with his doctor for routine check ups.
    Dr. Slavit schrieb MJ war bei guter Gesundheit, gute Ernährung und Bewegung. Er interagierte mit seinem Arzt für Routine-Check-ups.
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    Dr. Slavit: He denied any prior medical problem except for the cold.
    Dr. Slavit: Er verneinte vorherige med. Probleme bis auf eine Erkältung.
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    Q: Did he say he had Trouble sleeping? A: He didn't say he had Trouble sleeping, he didn't say he had insomnia..
    Q: Sagte er das er Probleme mit dem Schlafen hat? A: Er sagte nicht das er Probleme mit dem Schlafen hat, er sagt nichts über Schlaflosigkeit.
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    Q: Was he lucid? A: Yes Q: Speech slurred? A: No Q: Tired? A: No
    F: War er klar? A: Ja Q: Redete er undeutlich? A: Nein Q: Müde? A: Nein
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    Q: Capable of control of his health? A: Yes Q: Why candid? A: That's the perception I got
    Q: Fähig zur Kontrolle über seine Gesundheit? A: Ja Q: Warum offen? A: Das ist die Wahrnehmung, die ich hatte.
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    Form notes MJ was mature, open and candid with Dr. Slavit. Q: Was he capable of making decisions? A: Yes
    Formular -Notizen MJ war reif, offen und ehrlich mit Dr. Slavit. F: War er in der Lage Entscheidungen zu treffen? A: Ja
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    He used MJ's left arm, and took the specimen himself to the laboratory. Blood work result was normal consistent with MJ being in good health
    Er benutzte den linken Arm bei MJ und nahm die Probe selbst mit zum Labor. Blutergebnis war normal, im Einklang damit das MJ bei guter Gesundheit war.
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    Q: Did you have difficulty drawing blood? A: I had a little difficulty drawing blood.
    Q: Hatten Sie Schwierigkeiten Blut zu nehmen? A. Ich hatte ein wenig Schwierigkeiten.
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    Dr. Slavit: I assessed his pulmonary status with stethoscope, no further pulmonary test done.
    Dr. Slavit: Ich beurteilt seine pulmonalen Status mit Stethoskop,habe keine weiteren pulmonalen Test gemacht.
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    Dr. Slavit's form said MJ's vital signs were normal. Heart sound was normal, no
    murmurs.
    Dr. Slavits Formular sagt die Vitalfunktionen waren normal. Herz-Klang normal, keine Geräusche.
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    "That he was caring for him, that he was satisfied with the care he was getting, that's basically what he said," Dr. Slavit said.
    "Das er sich um ihn kümmerte, dass er zufrieden mit der Fürsorge war, die er erhielt, das ist das was er im Grunde sagte", sagt Dr. Slavit
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    Q: Did he tell you MJ said he liked Dr. Murray? A: Yes Q: Did he say he was a good doctor? A: I don't know if used that word
    Q: Sagte MJ Ihnen das er Dr. Murray mag? A: Ja Q: Sagte er er ist ein guter Arzt?
    A: Ich weiß nicht ob er dieses Wort benutzte.
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    Other than Dr. Kantor no one else was mentioned as providing care, Dr Slavit said.
    Niemand außer Dr. Kantor wurde Dr. Slavit als weiterer Arzt mitgeteilt.
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    "It was a routine check-up," Dr. Salvit said. MJ didn't discuss the details of the visit.
    "Es war ein Routine-Check-up", sagt Dr. Salvit. MJ hat nicht mit besprochen die Details des Besuches.
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    Dr. Slavit: He reported seeing him a couple of months prior to the physical just for check-up.
    Dr. Slavit: Er berichtete, dass er ihn ein paar Monate vor dem physischen Check-up sah.
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    Dr. Slavit explained Murray was identified by Mr. Jackson as his personal physician and reported seeing him as needed.
    Dr. Slavit erklärte Murray wurde von Mr. Jackson als sein Leibarzt identifiziert und berichtete, dass er ihn nach Bedarf sieht.
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    "Dr. Conrad Murray follows Mr. Jackson on a regular basis," the form said.
    "Dr. C. Murray folgt Mr. Jackson in regelmäßiger Basis", sagt das Formular
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    Dr. Slavit didn't see anything that suggested MJ was not telling the truth. He didn't find any typical signs of narcotic intoxication.
    Dr. Slavit sah nichts um anzunehmen, dass MJ nicht die Wahrheit sagt. Er fand keine typ. Anzeichen von narot. Intoxikation.
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    "He stated he was not taking any medications other than antibiotics," Dr. Slavit testified.
    "Er sagte er nimmt keine Medis außerhalb von Antibiotika" sagt Dr. Slavit
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    Q: Did he tell you he was taking painkillers? A: He told me he was not taking any painkillers.
    Q: Sagte er Ihnen das er Schmermittel nimmt? A: Er sagte mir er nimmt keine Schmerzmittel.
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    He was on short course of antibiotics, Dr. Slavit said, he's not on any other medication.
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    Note on form says "today's found Mr. Jackson to be in excellent condition." It also says MJ had allergy and a bit of cold.
    Notiz auf Formular " heute angfunden Mr. Jackson in excellenter Verfassung". Es sagt auch MJ hat Allergien und ist ein wenig erkältet.
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    Q: Did you find MJ to be in great physical condition? A: Based on the informaiton I had, yes
    Q: Befanden Sie MJ in großartiger phy. Verfassung? A: Basierend auf den Infos, die ich hatte ja.
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    Patient's name on blood work request: Mark Jones. It's an alias, Dr. Slavit said, just to protect Michael Jackson's privacy.
    Patientenname auf Bluttest. Mark Jones. Es ist ein Synonym sagt Dr. Slavit um MJs Prvatsphäre zu schützen.
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    The physical was done at MJ's house in Los Angeles, the doctor said. Attorney showed documents doc prepared during and after the physical.
    Untersuchungen wurde in MJs Haus in LA gemacht sagt der Arzt. Anwälte zeigen Dokument, die der Arzt während der Untersuchung ausfüllte.
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    Dr. Slavit never received any MJ's medical history, other than what the artist told him during examination.
    Dr. Slavit erhielt nie die med. Historie von MJ, nichts anderes was dem Arzt durch MJ erzählt wurde.
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    The doctor did not ask anything else other than 5 years medical history. He said he was not limited in MJ's examination at any time.
    Der Arzt erfragte nichts anderes als die letzte 5-Jahre Historie. Er sagt er war nicht limitiert auf die Zeit bei MJ.
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    Q: Nothing about prior drug abuse? Dr. Slavit: Not that I recall.
    Q: Nichts über Drogenmissbrauch? Dr. Slavit. Nicht das ich mich erinnere.
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    Dr. Slavit said insurance broker questioned MJ's breathing capacity, his pulmonary status and overall health.
    Dr. Slavit sagt der Versicherungsagent erfragte MJs Atemkapiztät, seinen Blutdruck und die allgemeine Gesundheit
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    "There were questions that had been raised by the broker," Dr. Slavit said. He doesn't know specifically what was asked.
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    Dr. Slavit said this is done if there were prior questions of medical health.
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    "I'd say it's not typical," Dr. Slavit testified about getting 5 years prior of medical history, but he had done before other than MJ.
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    "Yes, I requested to reviewed the prior 5 years of medical records," Dr. Slavit said. He wanted to be as accurate as possible.
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    "It was my understanding he was going to perform," Dr. Slavit said.
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    Bob Taylor contacted Dr Slavit somewhere in the months prior to the physical. "He basically asked if I would agree to do the physical on MJ"
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    On Feb 4, 2009, Dr. Slavit conducted a physical on Michael Jackson in connection with a performance cancellation insurance.
    Am 4. Februar 2009 machte Dr. Slavit eine Untersuchung bei MJ in Verbindung mit einer Cancellation-Versicherung
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    Dr. Slavit said he's done approximately 20 times for Robertson Taylor, insurance broker.
    Dr. Slavit sagt er hat ungefähr 20mal für R. Taylor, Versicherungsbroker gearbeitet.
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    The majority of times, check comes from the insurance broker. He's done physicals in hotels, rehearsal studios, artist's home, office
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    He said he's done approximately 30 physicals for performance cancellation insurance, mostly for singers, but not all.
    Er sagt das er zuvor 30 Untersuchungen für Cancellationversicherungen gemacht hat, meist bei Sängern, aber nicht immer.
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    Q: Who typically contact you for performance cancellation insurance? Dr. Slavit said it's usually insurance broker or artist management.
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    He said he checks vital signs, ear, nose, throat, neck, eyes, examination heart, lungs, abdomen and peripheral pulses.
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    Dr. Slavit has performed physical for performance cancellation insurance.
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    He explained the difference of physicals: problem-focus, more complete and comprehensive.
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    Dr. Slavit performed physical exams in hundreds of patients. He has performed physical for purposes of insurance, he said.
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    He's licensed to practice medicine in New York and New Jersey. He's never been suspended.
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    AEG called their next witness, Dr. David Hal Slavit, via video deposition. He's a board certified otolaryngology.

  • ..restliche Befragung von Debbie - von unten nach oben -



    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe was then excused from the witness stand after that, and the jury was sent to lunch.

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Chang asked one last final question, about whether Jackson did the best he could with his medications.
    Yes, she said, very faintly.

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    chang stellte eine letzte frage, darüber, ob jackson das beste tat was er konnte, mit seinen medikamenten. Ja, sagte sie, sehr leise.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Lastly, Putnam asked whether Rowe had any firsthand knowledge of Jackson’s care after the couple was divorced. She said no.

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    putnam fragte ob rowe kenntnis aus erster hand habe, nachdem daspaar geschieden wurde. Sie sagte nein.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe didn’t know when the video was shot and said she couldn’t tell if it was before or after the treatments.

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    rowe wußte nicht, wann das video gedreht wurde, und sage sie könne nicht sagen, ob es vor oder nach der behandlung sei.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Putnam asked about the video of Jackson performing in Munich and whether that was before or after the propofol treatment.

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    putnam fragte über das video von jacksons auftrit in münchen, und ob das vor oder nach dem propofol war.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Metzger initially suggested Jackson take a Xanax pill, but Jackson said he had tried that and it hadn’t worked.

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    metzger hatte erst vorgeschlagen, jackson solle eine xanax tablette nehmen, aber jackson sagte, er habe es versucht und es funktioniere nicht.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

She said the doctors came after she & Jackson talked to the Metzger.
    The German docs brought lots of monitoring equipment.

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    sie sagte die ärzte kamen, nachdem sie und jackson mit metzger sprachen.
    Die deutschen ärzte brachten viel überwachungsequipment mit.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Putnam asked about Metzger’s role in arranging the propofol treatment in Germany.

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    putnam fragte über die rolle metztgers um die propofol behandlung in deutschlang z arrangieren.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

... that it wasn’t possible to become addicted to propofol.
    She did say she told Jackson to stop taking all drugs when he was in rehab.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Putnam also asked whether Rowe was concerned that Jackson might be addicted to propofol. She said she asked about it, but was told ...(cont)

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    putnam fragte ob rowe beunruhigt war, dass jackson von propofol abhängig sein könne. Sie sagte, sie fragte danach, aber es wurde gesagt, das es nicht möglich war, von propofol abhängig zu werden.
    Sie sagt, sie sagte jacksion solle mit allen medikamenten aufhören, als er in der reha war.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Putnam: “You were concerned he might be coming in for the drugs?”
    Yes, Rowe replied.

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    sie hatten bedenken, er könnte wegen medikamenten kommen?
    Ja, antwortete rowe.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

“I didn’t understand Why he would come in twice in one week,” Rowe said.

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    „ich verstand nicht, warum er zweimal die woche kam.“ sagte rowe.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

He asked Rowe about her concerns that Jackson was coming into Klein’s office for more than just collagen treatments.

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    er fragte rowe über ihre bedenken, dass jackson in kleins praxis kam, nicht nur wegen collagen behandlungen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

AEG Live attorney Marvin Putnam took over questioning. He was relatively brief.

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    AEGs putnam übernahm die befragung. Er fasste sich kurz.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang concluded her examination. Rowe was incredibly upset by this point. The court took a short break before resuming.

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    chang beendete ihre befragung, rowe war an diesem punkt unbeschreiblich aufgeregt. Das gericht machte eine kurze pause.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

“She is devastated. She has no life. She doesn’t feel she has a life anymore," Rowe said of her daughter, Paris Jackson.

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    „sie ist am boden zerstört. Sie hat kein leben. Sie fühlt sich, als hätte sie kein leben mehr.“ sagt rowe von ihrer tochter, paris.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang asked if Rowe had spoken to Paris about her father’s death. “She is devastated,” Rowe said. “She tried to kill herself.”

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    chang fragte, ob sie mit paris über den tod ihres vaters gesprochen habe. „sie ist am boden zerstört“ sagte rowe „sie versuchte, sich umzubringen.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe covered her face with her hands and he objection was sustained. She told the jury, “I almost lost my daughter.”

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    rowe bedeckte ihr gesicht mit den händen. Sie sagte der jury. „ich habe beinahe meine tochter verloren.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

“Their father is dead,” she said in a raspy voice, and then started to mention Jackson’s schedule. AEG Live’s attorney objected.

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    „ihr vater ist tot“ sagte sie mit rauer stimme, und begann dann jacksons terminplan zu erwähnen. AEGs anwalt legte einspruch ein.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang asked how Paris had been affected by their father’s death.
    Rowe broke down and stayed silent for several moments.

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    chang fragte, wie paris durch den tod ihres vaters betroffen wurde. Rowe brach zusammen und blieb für mehrere augenblicke still.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe said efore Paris’ hospitalization, she and Paris were communicating daily and she was spending weekends at Rowe’s ranch.

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    sie sagt, bevor paris krankenhausaufenthalt sprachen sie täglich miteinander und sie verbrachten wochenenden auf rowes ranch.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe was then asked about her relationship with Prince and Paris. She said she was closer to Paris than Prince.

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    rowe wurde dann über ihr verhältnis zu prince und paris gefragt. Sie sagt, sie ist näher mit paris als mit prince


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang asked whether Rowe saw the “This Is It” film, and how she thought Jackson looked. “He looked horrible,” she said.

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    chang fragte, ob sie TII sa und wie sie denke, dass jackson aussehe. „er sah furchtbar aus“ sagt sie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe said she was very proud of Jackson’s three children, including Blanket. She said she wouldn’t have left them if Jackson was an addict.

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    rowe sagt, sie war sehr stolz auf jacksons 3 kinder, incl. Blanket. Sie sagt, sie hätte sie nicht bei jackson gelassen, wenn er ein abhängiger gewesen wäre.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

“I loved him very much and I still do,” Rowe said. “I wanted him to be a father. I wanted him to have everything he didn’t have growing up.”

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    "ich lebte ihn sehr und ich liebe ihn immernoch.“ „ich wollte, dass er vater wird. Ich wollte, dass er alles hatte, was er nicht hatte als er heranwuchs.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe’s was asked about her decision to leave the children with MJ when they separated and divorced. She said she didn't regret that choice.

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    rowe wurde über ihre entscheidung, die kids bei jackson zu lassen gefragt. Sie sagt, sie bereue ihre entscheidung nicht.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe: “I told him, ‘You’re going to be so whipped. She’s just going to have you around her finger.’”

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe said when she told Jackson he was going to have a daughter, she told him he was going to be in big trouble.

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    rowe sagt, als sie jackson sagte, er werde eine tochter haben, sagte sie ihm, er hätte ein problem rowe: ich sagte ihm: du wirst unter ihrem pantoffel stehen. Sie wird dich um den finger wickeln.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang showed several pictures of Jackson’s oldest children when they were babies, some with the four of them together.

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    chang zeigte bilder der ältern kinder jacksons als babies und ein paar mit allen vieren zusammen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe said she told Jackson and he was so excited, he ran onto the tarmac of the airport where they were filming “Ghost.”

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    rowe sagt, sie erzählte es jackson und er war aufgeregt, er lief über den flugplatz wo sie ghosts filmten.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang then showed a photo of Jackson, in makeup for his short film “Ghost,” riding on the back of her Harley-Davidson motorcycle.

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    chang zeigte dann ein foto von jackson im make up für ghosts, auf dem sitz ihrer harley.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Jackson thought about it for a couple of weeks before agreeing to have a child with her.

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    jackson dachte ein paar wochen darüber nach, bevor er zustimmte, mit ihr ein kind zu haben.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe said she told Jackson, “Let me have a baby with you. You can have the joy of being a parent.”

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    rowe sagt,sie sagte zu jackson:“lass mich mit dir ein baby haben. Du kannst die freude erleben, ein elternteil zu sein.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

She said she asked Jackson Why, and he mentioned that he didn’t have children. Rowe said she told her friend that he could still be a father

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    sie sagte, sie fragte jackson warum, und er erwähnte, dass er keine kinder habe. Rowe sagte, sie sagte zu ihrem freund, er könne trotzdem vater sein.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Rowe was then asked about her children with Jackson. She said he was devastated after his divorce from Lisa Marie Presley.

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    rowe wurde dann zu ihren kindern von jackson befragt. Sie sagte, er war zerstört nach seiner scheidung mit presley.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

Chang was trying to make the point that Jackson’s propofol treatment in that instance wasn’t totally hidden.

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    chang versuchte zu sagen, dass jacksons propofolbehandlung in diesem fall nicht völlig verheimlicht wurde.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

In response to questions from Chang, Rowe said the German doctors brought their equipment in through the hotel’s front door.

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    rowe sagte, die deutschen ärzte brachten ihr equipment durch die vordetür des hotels.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 15h 

She said Jackson was clean, and she was concerned that getting the anesthesia would trigger some sort of relapse.

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    sie sagte, jackson war clean, und sie sorgte sich darüber, dass das anesthetikum eine art rückfall verursachen könnte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe was asked more questions about the propofol treatment in Germany. She said she was worried it would affect him.

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    rowe wurde noch mehr zur propofol behandlung in deutschland befragt.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

After the break, attorneys were rushing to get Rowe off the stand.
    It may have been an issue with her attorney needing to leave.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe threatened to take charge if Trent didn't take care of Mrs. Jackson.
    “I can take you Trent,” she said to Trent, who's 6' 1" tall.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe then turned Trent and asked if he was taking care of Mrs. Jackson. She hugged him and told him to take good care of Mrs. Jackson.

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    rowe fragte dann trent, ob er sich um mrs. Jackson kümmere. Sie umarmte ihn und sagte ihm, er solle gut auf katherine achten.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe held Katherine Jackson’s hand, just as she had done through so many of Jackson’s medical procedures. They hugged for several moments.

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    rowe hielt katherine jacksons hand, genauso wie sie es während den behandlungen von mj getan hatte. Sie umarmten sich eine zeitlang.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

The court took the morning break, and Debbie Rowe came over and hugged Katherine Jackson. Rowe was crying.

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    morgenpause. Debbie ging zu katherine und umarmte sie. Rowe weinte..


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang asked some questions about Jackson received propofol to help him sleep in Munich, Germany on the “HIStory” tour.

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    chang stellte ein paar fragen darüber, dass jackson propofol erhielt, was ihm schlafen half, als er in münchen, HIStory Tour, war.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe told the jury that Jackson had so much adrenaline after shows that he couldn’t sleep afterward.

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    rowe sagte der jury, dass jackson nach den shows zu viel adrenalien hatte, dass er danach nicht scglafen konnte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe asked if Jackson was easily manipulated. “He could be,” Rowe replied. Chang asked if it happened when he was scared; Rowe said yes.

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    rowe wurde gefragt, ob jackson leicht manipulierbar sei. „er konnte es sein“ sagte sie. Chang fragte, ob das passierte wenn er sich ängstigte; rowe sagte ja.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang also played the music video for “Remember the Time.” Rowe pointed out one of Jackson’s camels from Neverland was in the video.

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    chang spielte auch das Remember the Time video. Rowe sagte, das eines der kamele von neverland im video sei.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

The jury was in stitches laughing at the woman clinging to Jackson. She gave a leg kick when security took her off stage.

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    die jury lachte, als die frau an jackson klebte. Sie trat mit den beinen, als die security sie von der bühneholte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang played a clip of Jackson performing “You Are Not Alone” in Germany. A woman came on stage, clung to Jackson and refused to let go.

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    chang spielt einen clip von einer YANA performance in deutschland. Eine frau kam auf die bühne, umarmte jackson und wollte ihn nicht mehr loslassen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said they had to hide out in the store’s bathroom until Jackson’s security detail arrived.
    She said she got in Trouble for the trip.

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    sie mussten sich im bad dees ladens verstecken, bis jacksons security kam. Sie sagte, sie bekam ärger wegen dem ausflug.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

No one noticed them, Rowe said, until Jackson spoke up and asked about a particular artist.
    Then everyone recognized Jackson’s voice.

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    keiner bemerkte sie, bis jackson laut redete und etwas über einen künstler fragte. Dann erkannte jedeer jacksons stimme.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said one way she and Jackson would sneak around was she would pick him up in her Toyota Celica. They went to Tower Records one day.

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    rowe sagte, eine art, wie sie mit jackson herumkam war, ihn mit ihrem toyota celicia abzuholen. Einmal fuhrensie zu tower records.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Jackson’s body was kept for several weeks at the cemetery after his death, and he’s interred at another Forest Lawn cemetery.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

One place where he took Rowe was Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills, where they looked at the sculptures and artwork in peace.

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    einer der orte , wohin er rowe mitnahm war forest lawn hollywood hills, wo sie in ruhe die kunst und die skulpturen ansahen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

There were very few places where Jackson could go in public and not be mobbed or noticed, she said.

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    es gab ein paar plätze, wo jackson hinkonnte ohne gemobbt oder bemerkt zu werden.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

... Rowe said Jackson called up Gregory Peck to answer questions about the film. “Michael was tickled,” she said.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe hadn’t seen “To Kill a Mockingbird,” so Jackson called her one time when it was on TV. They didn’t know what a word meant, so ...(cont)

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    rowe hatte „wer die nachtigall stört“ nicht gesehen und jackson rief sie einmal an, als es im tv lief. Sie wusste nicht die bedeutung eines wortes, und jackson habe gregory peck angerufen, damit er fragen zu dem film beantworte. „Michael war amusiert“ sagte sie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang then moved into questions about Rowe’s relationship with Jackson. She said they’d watch movies together, in person and on the phone.

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    chang ging dann über zu rowes verhältniss zu jackson. Sie sagte, sie sahen sich zusammen filme an, persönlich und am telefon.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe was pretty annoyed with some of Chang’s questions, which she said were too general.

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    Rowe war sehr unerfreut über einige der fragen changs, von denen sie sagte, sie seine zu allgemein gehalten.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang asked if she agreed that Jackson never sought out doctors solely to get drugs. “To my knowledge, no," she responded.

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    chang fragte, ob sie übereinstimme, dass jackson seine ärzte nicht nur aussuchte, um medikamente zu bekommen. „nach meiner kenntnis nicht“ antwortete sie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said doctor shopping wasn’t a term she was familiar with back when she was close to Jackson.

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    rowe sagt, das sei kein ihr bekannter begriff zu der zeit, als sie nahe an jackson war.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

It was around this point that Rowe was asked if she thought Jackson was doctor shopping. She said no.

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    zu dem zeitpunkt wurde rowe gefragt, ob sie dachte, dass jackson dr. shopping betrieb.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe: “When it came to the pain, I wouldn’t say it was dictating, it was more begging for relief than anything.”

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    „wenn es um die schmerzen ging würde ich nicht von vorschreiben sprechen, es war mehr als alles andere, eine bitte um erleichterung.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She was also asked whether Jackson tried to dictate his care. Rowe said MJ wouldn’t question his doctor’s decisions.

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    sie wurde auch gefragt, ob jackson seine behandlung vorschreiben wollte. Rowe sagte, jackson stellte die entscheidungen seiner ärzte nicht in frage.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

“He always thought doctors would have his best interests at heart,” Rowe said. That was true of Metzger, she said.

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    er dachte immer, ärzte hätten sein bestes im sinn. Das stimmte für metzger, sagte sie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe reiterated that Jackson trusted and respected his doctor.
    “He was very loyal to his physicians,” she said.

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    rowe wiederholte, dass jackson seinenärzten vertraute und sie respektierte. „er war sehr loyal zu seinen ärzten“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

While there were a lot of professional accomplishments, Rowe noted that Jackson became a dad during that time period.
    (It was on the chart)

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    neben den ganzen beruflichen errungenschaften, merkte rowe auch an, dass jackson in dieser zeit vater wurde.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

There was a little bit of bickering, and Rowe told the attorneys, “But sharing is caring.” Putnam was OK with jurors seeing the timeline.

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    es gab ein kleines gezanke und rowe sagte den anwälten „teilen ist fürsorglich“ putnam war einverstanden, das die jury die timeline sah.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang had to show the timeline to AEG Live defense attorney Marvin Putnam, who wasn’t shown it before court convened today.

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    chang musste die timeline auch putnam zeigen, die sie zuvor nicht sah.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang showed a timeline of Jackson’s accomplishments between 1983 and 2000, when he and Rowe were close friends.

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    chang zeigte eine timeline von jacksons errungenschaften zwischen 1983 und 2000, als er und rowe enge freunde waren.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

While she wasn’t initially a fan of his music, Rowe said Jackson’s performances were amazing and she wished everyone had seen 1 of his shows

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    während sie anfänglich kein fan der musik war, sagt rowe, jacksons performances seien beeindruckend und sie wünschte, jeder hätte eine seiner shows gesehen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Debbie Rowe was also asked about watching Jackson’s shows. She said she would sit on stage so as not to get crushed by the fans.

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    debbi wurde auch zum zusehen bei jacksons shows gefragt. Sie sagte,sie sass auf der bühne,so dass sie nicht von den fans überrant (crashed) werden würde.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said she felt Jackson was always open and honest with her.
    Chang: “Did he ever try to hide any drugs from you?”
    “Not that I know of.”

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    rowe sagte, sie fühlte, dass jackson immer offen und ehrlich mit ihr war.
    Chang: hat er je irgendwelche medikamente vor ihnen versteckt?
    Rowe: „nicht dass ich wüßte“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang asked whether Rowe remembered Paul Gongaware from the “Dangerous” tour. She did not.

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    chang fragte, ob sie sich an gongaware während der dangeroustour erinnere. Sie tat es nicht.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe: “It wasn't a secret. I used to hang out with the dancers and the people who worked with him.”

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    rowe sagt“ es war kein geheimnis. Ich war mit den tänzern und leuten, die für ihn arbeiteten zusammen.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Jackson’s struggles with pain medications were well-known on his “Dangerous” tour, Rowe said.

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    jacksons kampf mit schmerzmitteln war auf seiner dangerous tour gut (allgemein) bekannt.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said Jackson “wanted to be able to focus on his work.
    She said when he had taken pain medication, they wouldn't go out.

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    rowe sagte, jackson wollte in der lage sein, sich auf seine arbeit zu konzentrieren.
    Sie sagte, wenn er schmerzmittel genommen hatte, gingen sie nicht aus.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang: “He couldn’t be creative?”
    “He couldn’t do anything,” Rowe responded.

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    chang: „er konnte nicht mehr kreativ sein?“
    Rowe: „er konnte garnichts mehr.“
    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She said she saw him in so much pain, he would have cold sweats, grow pale, and couldn’t see or think clearly when this happened.

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    sie sagte, sie sah ihn in so großen schmerzenm, dass er kalte schweissausbrüche hatte, blass wurde, nicht mehr klar sehen und denken konnte, wenn das passierte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said she would ask Jackson about his pain on a 1-10 scale, and he would get scared if his pain approached reached level 3.

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    rowe sagte, sie fragte jackson über seine schmerzen auf einer skala von 1 – 10, und er bekam angst, wenn der schmerz level 3 erreichte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She said she wanted to make sure her friend was OK, but it wasn’t part of her job to accompany him to treatments outside of Klein’s office.

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    sie sagte, sie wollte sichergehen, dass ihr freund ok sei, aber es war nicht teil ihres jobs ihn zu behandlungen ausserhalb kleins praxis zu begleiten.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe began to break down as Chang asked her to describe her helping Jackson during his medical treatments.

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    rowe brach zusammen als chang sie fragte, zu beschreiben, wie sie jackson durch die behandlungen hindurch half.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

In the end, the keloids got “even thicker and lumpier.” Rowe said another surgery wasn't an option.

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    am ende wurden die keloide nur dicker und unruhiger. Rowe sagte, eine weitere op war keine option.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

The aim was to get one keloid to contend with on Jackson’s scalp, but it wasn’t successful, Rowe said. It fell apart in 1996 or 1997.

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    das ziel war, ein einziges keloid zu erhalten, aber es war nicht erfolgreich. Es fiel 1996 oder 97 auseinander.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

That’s Why Jackson had to have an implant placed under his scalp to expand the skin. That was done by Dr. Gordon Sasaki.

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    deshalb brauchte jackson ein implantat unter seiner kopfhaut um die haut zu dehnen. Das wurde von dr. sasaki gemacht.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

After the treatments on Jackson, there wasn't enough skin for plastic surgeon Steven Hoefflin to do a scalp reduction.

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    nach der behandlung jacksons, gab es nicht genug haut für den plastischen chirurgen hoefflin.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

“It’s horribly painful,” Rowe said. She said in some treatments, you can hear the skin popping while the medication is administered.

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    „es ist furchtbar schmerzhaft. Du kannst die haut platzen hören, wenn das medikament verabreicht wird.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Keloid tissue is very hard and dense and it requires regular injections to treat. She said an air gun is used for some of the treatments.

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    die haut von keloiden ist sehr hart und bedarf regulärer injektionen zur behandlung. Sie sagte zu manchen behandlungen wird ein luft gewehr (air gun) benutzt.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said keloids are extremely painful. On Jackson, they started “mid-scalp and went back to the crown,” she said.

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    rowe sagte, keloids seien extrem schmerzhaft. Bei jackson begannen sie „in der mitte der kopfehaut und gingen bis oben.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

A couple photos were shown. None of the pictures Chang showed Rowe to demonstrate medical conditions were of Jackson.

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    ein paar fotos wurden gezeigt. Keines der fotos die chang rowe zeigte, um medizinische dinge zu erklären, war von jackson.,


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She then explained that Jackson had keloids, a series of lumpy bumps on his skin that sometimes happen to burn victims.

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    sie erklärte dann, das jackson keloide hatte, eine reihe verklumpter beulen auf seiner haut, was bei verbrennungs opfern manchmal vorkommt.



    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe was also complementary of Hoefflin’s skills as a plastic surgeon when he first treated Jackson.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

“He was almost phobic about needles,” Chang asked.
    “No, he was phobic,” Rowe replied.

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    „hatte er fast eine phobie gegen nadeln?“ fragte chang.
    „nein, er hatte eine phobie“ antwortete rowe


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang asked Rowe a few questions about Metzger. She told the jury Metzger was the best man at her and Jackson’s wedding in 1996.

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    chang stellte ein paar fragen zu metzger. Sie sagte der jury, metzger sei auf ihrer hochzeit 1996 trauzeuge gewesen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

... from a rheumatologist (Dr. Allan Metzger) and a dermatologist, (Dr. Arnold Klein.) Both got extra training in their respective fields.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe explained to the jury Why Jackson needed two doctors to treat his discoid lupus. She said it needed treatment ... (cont)

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    rowe erklärte der jury, warum jackson zwei ärzte brauchte zu behandlung seines discoid lupus. Sie sagte, es brauche behandlung von einem rheumatologen (dr metzger) und einem hautarzt (dr. klein). Beide hatzten eine extra ausbildung auf dem gebiet.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

“As busy as he was, he wasn’t the best person to think about and organize and keep track of his medical care,” Rowe said.

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    „so beschäftigt wie er war, war er nicht der beste darin, sich um seine medizinische behandlung und organisation zu kümmern“ sagt rowe.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Jackson found her honesty refreshing, Rowe said. She began to accompany him to medical appointments to put him at ease, watch out for him.

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    jackson fand ihre ehrlichkeit erfrischend, sagt rowe. Sie begann ihn zu medizinischen terminen zu begleiten, um ihn zu entspannen, und nach ihm zu sehen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe noted she wasn’t a Michael Jackson fan when they met and she told him so.
    “I apparently have no filter, as my daughter says,” she said.

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    rowe bemerkte, dass sie kein mj fan war als sie sich kennenlernten und dass sie es ihm sagte. „anscheinend habe ich keinen filter, wie meine tochter das nennt“, sagt sie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe was she and Jackson talked about everything, and that he didn’t want to burden his mother with specifics about his conditions.

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    rowe sagte, sie und jackson sprachen über alles, und dass er seine mutter nicht mit einzelheiten über seine (krankheits)-zustände belasten wollte.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Background on the reference to the Elephant Man can be found here: ‪http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi…06/Elephant-Man …

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe was asked whether Jackson compared himself to the Elephant Man.
    She said he did.

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    rowe wurde gefragt, ob jackson sich mit dem elefantebmensch veglich. Sie sagte, er tat es.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

“He was worried that people would see the disease and the disfigurement before they would see him working,” Rowe said.

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    „er machte sich gedanken darüber, das die menschen seine erkrankung und missgestaltungen sehen würden, bevor sie ihn arbeiten sehen würden.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang: “He felt disfigured?”
    Yes, Rowe replied.
    Chang asked if Jackson felt embarrassed. Rowe said he did feel embarrassed.

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    chang: „fühlte er sich entstellt?“
    Rowe sagte ja. Chang fragte ob mj sich schämte. Rowe sagte, er schämte sich


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She said any one of Jackson’s conditions would have been difficult for a person to deal with, but MJ had to deal with it in the public eye.

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    sie sagte, jeder der erkrankungen jacksons wäre für jeden mensch schwierig gewesen, aber mj musste damit vor den augen der öffentlichkeit zurecht kommen.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe, on her role of accompanying Jackson to procedures: “I didn’t want him to feel as hopeless as he felt and as helpless as he felt.”

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    rowe über ihre rolle, jackson bei den behandlungen zu begleiten: „ich wollte nicht, dass er sich so hoffnungslos und so hilflos fühlte, wie er sich fühlte.“


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Chang then asked about the burns to Jackson’s scalp that occurred during the Pepsi commercial shoot.

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    chang fragte dann über die verbrennungen von dem pesi dreh


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Vitiligo was one of the reasons that Jackson sought frequent treatment from Dr. Klein, Rowe said.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Jackson, in consultation with Dr. Klein, opted to de-pigment all of his skin, Rowe said.

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    jackson beschloss, nach beratung mit klein. Seine ganze haut zu depigmentieren


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

She said it became clear that Jackson’s vitiligo wasn’t going to go away at some point, and it caused him tremendous anxiety.

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    sie sagte es wurde deutlich, dass jacksons vitiligo nicht weggehen würde, und es es verursachte bei ihm extreme angst/besorgnis.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe said vitiligo was harder to treat in people with darker skin, and explained that the skin lightening can come and go.

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    rowe sagte, vitiligo ist bei menschen mit dunklerer haut schwerer zu behandeln, und erklärte, dass die hautaufehellung kommen und gehen kann.


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Through photos, she explained to the jury what vitiligo, discoid lupus looked like and their effects.

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    mit fotos zeigte sie der jury, wie vitiligo und discolid lupus aussehen und sich auswirken


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Much of Rowe’s early testimony was explaining the medical conditions Jackson suffered from.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Rowe started out being questioned by Deborah Chang, one of Katherine Jackson’s attorneys.

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    Antworten Retweeten Favorisieren Mehr


    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

The video was of Dr. David Slavit, who performed a physical on Michael Jackson in 2009 for “This Is It” insurance purposes.

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    Anthony McCartney ‏‪@mccartneyAP‬ 16h 

Katherine and Trent Jackson were here for the morning session. They left after the lunch break when AEG played a video deposition.

  • Die Jackson-Seite hat nun heute der Jury mitgeteilt, dass sie ihren Fall beendet haben. Panish wollte dies nicht, aber die Richterin sagte ihm, wenn er es nicht tut wird sie es der Jury mitteilen.Es halte ihn nicht davon ab im Rebuttal-Teil noch ergänzende Zeugen zu bringen. Erst nachdem die Anklage offiziell ihren Fall beendet hat ist es dem Gericht nun möglich AEGs Antrag auf Abweisung der Klage zu bearbeiten. Panish teilte der Jury mit das die Präsentation der Anklage offiziell nach K. Ortegas Aussage beendet wurde. Gericht nennt es eine Formalie.


    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 22m


    Panish told the jury that the plaintiff's case officially ended after Kenny Ortega's testimony was done. Judge called it a "formality."
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 23m


    Plaintiff's resting will allow for argument on an AEG motion to dismiss the case at some point. No word on when those arguments will happen
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 23m


    The judge said it didn't foreclose Panish from calling additional witnesses during his rebuttal case.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 24m


    ... but Judge Yvette Palazuelos told him she would tell the jury the plaintiff's case was done if he didn't.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 25m


    In addition to testimony, one development this morning was that the plaintiff's rested their case. Attorney Brian Panish didn't want to ...
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 27m


    We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. AEG wrapped up its direct examination of Green, cross-examination begins at 1:30 p.m. PDT
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  • ..am 13. 8 gab es auch noch eine Videodeposition von Dr.Gordon Hiroshi Sasaki...wie gehabt von unten nach oben:


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

That ended the video deposition. Jurors ordered to return tomorrow at 10:45 am PT. Juror 6 has a court hearing somewhere else.

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    Ende der Video Deposition...


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

May 1998 was last time Dr. Sasaki saw and spoke with MJ. He knew doctors Hoefflin, Klein and Metzger treated MJ back then.

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    Mai 1998 war das letzte Mal, das Sasaki MJ sah und sprach. Er weiß, dass Klein, Hoefflin und Metzger ihn da behandelten.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

"I'm totally ignorant regarding that," Dr. Sasaki said.

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    „ In dem Punkt bin ich völlig unwissend“ sagt Sasaki.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He testified he is not familiar with MJ's announcement in 1993 about being dependent on prescription medication.

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    Er sagte aus, er sei nicht vertraut mit Mjs Verkündigung 1993, darüber, von verschreibungspflichtigen Medikamenten abhängig zu sein.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said MJ was the only patient he injected with Demerol.

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    Sasaki sagt, MJ war der einzige Patient, dem er Demerol injizierte.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

"Because I don't do that kind of surgery that requires that kind of pain medication," Dr Sasaki testified.

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    „Denn ich mache nicht die Art Oprerationen, die diese Sorte Schmerzmittel erfordern,“ sagt Sasaki.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Q: About how often do you prescribe Demerol?
    A: None

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    Q: Wie oft ungefähr verschreiben sie Demerol?
    A: Keins


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki explained Demerol is for acute pain, not chronic pain, following major surgery.

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    Sasaki erklärt, Demerol ist für akute Schmerzen, nicht für chronische Schmerzen, in Folge einer großen OP.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Aug 15, 1993 Dr. Sasaki prescribed Demerol to MJ under Omar Arnold. This was the first and last time Dr. Sasaki gave Demerol to MJ, he said

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    Am 15 Aug. 93 verschrieb Sasaki MJ Demerol auf den Namen Omar Arnold. Das war das erste und letzte Mal, dass Sasaki MJ Demerol gab.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he injected site with pain reliever, gave Demerol 100 mg, suggested MJ to see pain specialist.

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    Sasaki injizierte die Stelle mit Schmerzmittel, gab 100mg Demerol, und schlug Mj vor einen Schmerzexperten aufzusuchen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

On Aug 15, 1993, Dr. Sasaki said he saw patient, with Debbie Rowe. He was complaining to pain in scar area, area had healed completely.

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    Am 15. Aug. 93 sah Sasaki den Patienten, mit Debbie Rowe. Er beschwerte sich über Schmerzen im Narbenbereich, der bereich war komplett verheilt.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Percocet prescription, 45 tablets each time, were prescribed on:
    July 3, July 20 and Aug 10, 1993.


    Q: Was that very frequent?
    A: Frequent

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    Percocet, 45 Tabletten jeweils, wurden verschrieben am:
    3.Juli, 20 Juli und 10. Aug. 1993


    Q. war das häufig?
    A: sehr häufig


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki told Dr. Klein and MJ he would no longer prescribe Percocet to MJ since he was asking for too much.

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    Sasaki sagte Klein und MJ, er würde MJ nicht mehr Percocet verschreiben, weil er nach zuviel davon fragte.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he prescribed 45 tablets of Percocet each time.

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    Sasaki sagt, er verschrieb jedesmal 45 Tabl. Percocet.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Q: Was he taking too much?
    A: Yes
    Q: Where you the only person prescribing Percocet to MJ?
    A: I don't know

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    Q: Nahm er zuviel?
    A: JA
    Q: Waren sie der Einzige, der Percocet verschrieb?
    A: Ich weiß es nicht.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

"I was concerned about pain patterns and his use of Percocet," Dr. Sasaki testified.

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    „Ich war besorgt wegen Schmerzmustern und seinem Gebrauch von Percocet.“ sagt Sasaki.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki suggested to Dr. Klein that MJ be seen by a pain management specialist.

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    Sasaki schlug Klein vor, dass MJ zu einem Schmerzexperten gehen solle.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Doctor said pain was normal 4-6 weeks after surgery due to the nerves growing back.

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    Der Arzt sagt, Schmerzen seien 4 – 6 Wochen nach der OP normal, weil die Nerven wachsen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

On Aug 10, 1993, Dr Sasaki received a phone call from Dr. Klein that MJ was experiencing extreme pain.

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    Am 10. 8. 93 erhielt Sasaki einen Anruf von Klein, dass MJ extreme Schmerzen habe.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

On July 20, 1993, there was another request for Percocet, due to strenuous rehearsals, prescribed with the knowledge of Dr. Klein.

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    Am 20.7.93, gab es eine weitere Anfrage nach Percocet, wegen anstrendenden Proben, verschrieben mit Kenntnis von Klein.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he spoke with Dr. Klein and that Klein suggested Percocet.

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    Sasaki sagt, er sprach mit Klein und der habe Percocet vorgeschlagen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

On July 3, 1993, Dr. Sasaki prescribed Percocet for MJ. It was the first time he prescribed pain medication to MJ.

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    Am 3.7.93 verschrieb Sasaki Percocet an MJ. Es war das erstemal, dass er MJ Schmerzmittel verschrieb.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he told Debbie Rowe that the area should be exposed to air as much as possible to heal.

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    Sasaki sagt, er sagte Debbie Rowe, dass die Stelle an die frische Luft solle, so oft wie möglich, um zu heilen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He said MJ was experiencing pain due to his work and rehearsals. He had to wear a hairpiece to camouflage the scar.

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    Er sagt, MJ hatte Schmerzen wegen seiner Arbeit und Proben. Er musste ein Haarteil tragen, um die Narbe zu überdecken.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki testified from his record that on June 30, 1993 he had the first post op follow up at the Dr. Klein's office.

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    Sasaki sagt, laut seinen Aufzeichnungen hatte er das ersten Nachfolgetreffen am 30. Juni 93 in Kleins Praxis.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said normally a patient who undergoes that kind of surgery has pain lasting for 6 weeks.

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    Sasaki sagt, ein Patient, der sich dieser OP unterzieht, habe normalerweise Schmerzen für 6 Wochen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Q: Did you prescribe any medication to MJ?
    A: No.

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    Q: verschrieben sie Schmerzmittelan MJ?
    A: nein


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he did the surgery but didn't see the patient until 2-3 months later, which is highly unusual.

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    Sasaki sagt, er machte die OP aber er sah den Patienten erst 2 – 3 Monate später wieder, was sehr ungewöhnlich sei.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki: I think when you're dealing with high profile clients, some doctors prefer to keep it under control.

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    Sasaki: Ich denke, wenn du mit HighProfile Patienten zu tun hast, möchten einige Ärzte es unter Kontrolle behalten.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He said he never talked to MJ about the pain treatment.

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    Er sagt, er sprach nie mit MJ über die Schmerzbehandlung.




    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said if he doesn't see the patient regularly he prefers not to give pain medication.

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    Sasaki sagt, wenn er den Patienten nicht regelmässig sieht, bevorzuge er es, keine Schmerzmittel zu geben.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Q: Did you provide any post operation pain care?
    A: None
    Q: Was that unusual?
    A: It's highly unusual

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    Q: Haben sie Postoperative Schmerzbehandlung durchgeführt?
    A: Keine
    Q: War das ungewöhnlich?
    A: es ist sehr ungewöhnlich.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said that with celebrities, when he doesn't get to see patients frequently, he prefers not to treat them.

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    Sasaki sagt, dass bei Celebrities, wenn er die Patienten nicht regelmässig zu sehen bekommt, er es vorzieht, sie nicht zu behandeln.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Hoefflin strongly suggested he managed the pain medications since he knew the patient better.

Öffnen Hoefflin schlug vor, er manage die Schmerzmittelgabe, weil er den Patinten besser kenne.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki prepared a summary of all the treatment of MJ on Feb 7, 2013. He wrote Dr. Hoefflin told him MJ had a low threshold to pain.

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    Sasaki fertigte eine Zusammenfassung der ganzen Behandlung von MJ am 7. 2. 2013. Er schrieb, Hoefflin sagte ihm MJ habe eine niedrige Schmerzgrenze.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He said he was there for medical purposes, though, The visits may have been 5 years apart.

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    Er sagt, er war wegen medizinischen Anliegen dort. Die Besuche lagen etwa 5 Jahre auseinander.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

"More than talking about him, we talked about the Bible," Dr. Sasaki said.

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    „ Wir sprachen mehr über die Bibel, als über ihn.“ sagt Sasaki.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki: I think he just wanted to have me look at his wound, which was healing quite well.

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    Ich denke, er wollte, dass ich seine Wunde ansehe, die ganz gut verheilte.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he visited Neverland Ranch twice, once with his family and once at MJ"s request.

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    Sasaki sagt, er besuchte Neverland 2x, einmal mit seiner Famile und einmal auf Anfrage Mjs.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki: We went up there, he was not there, but he was not supposed to be there. The staff served us lunch and showed us around.

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    Wir gingen hin, er war nicht dort, aber es war auch nicht geplant, dass er da sein sollte. Das Personal servierte uns Essen und zeigte uns alles.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki: He was kind enough to invite myself and my family to Neverland.

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    Sasaki: er war so nett, mich und meine Famile nach Neverland einzu laden.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

The scar was in the middle part of the scalp, Dr. Sasaki said.

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    Die Narbe war im Mittleren Teil des Kopfes.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He said he understands the burn happened during a Pepsi commercial and it had healed, but MJ wanted to reduce the scar.

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    Er sagt, er verstand es so, dass die Verbrennung während eines Pepsi Spots passierte und dass sie heilte, aber MJ die Narbe verkleinern wollte.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Hoefflin was his first assistant in the surgery. Dr. Sasaki said he knew generically that in 1988 MJ had a burn in is scalp.

Öffnen Hoefflin war erster Assistent bei der OP. Sasaki sagt, er wusste, das MJ 1988 eine Verbrennung der Kopfhaut hatte.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said the method results in about 30% more skin from stretching. He then put ballon in the scalp to stretch further to cover scar

Öffnen sasaki sagt, die Methode er gibt in etwa 30% mehr Haut vom dehnen. Er tat einen Ballon unter die Kopfhaut um noch mehr zu dehnen, um die Narbe abzudecken.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He then put stitches going from one side of the metal to the other, crank it to put the sides together.

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    Dann machte er Stiche von einer seite des Metalls zur anderen, verdrehte es, um die Seiten zusammenzufügen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

The surgery in 1993 lasted about half an hour. Dr. Sasazi explained he put a metal on a side of the defect and a metal on the other side.

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    Die Op 1993 dauerte etwa eine halbe Stunde. Sasaki erklärt, er tat ein Metall auf jede Seite des Defekts.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

The consultation with MJ and Dr. Hoefflin was set up, Dr. Sasazi said. Dr. Hoefflin is a well known plastic surgeon in Los Angeles.

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    Die Konsultation mit MJ und Hoefflin wurde vereinbart. Hoefflin war ein bekannter Plastischer arzt in LA.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he was asked to assist him in providing different alternatives to take care of the bald spot on his scalp.

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    Sasaki sagt, er wurde gefragt, ihm zu assistieren, um verschiedene Alternativen wegen der kahlen Stelle einzubeziehen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki on how he met MJ: I received a phone call from Dr. Steven Hoefflin, a plastic surgeon.

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    Sasaki darüber, wie er MJ traf: Ich bekam einen Anruf von Hoefflin, ein Plastischer Chirurg


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said the other two doctors were Steven Hoefflin and Arnold Klein. At some point Dr. Metzger as well, he said.

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    Sasaki sagt, es waren Klein und Hoefflin. Und zu einer Zeit auch Metzger.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said the care was placed into two other doctors that Mr. Jackson thought would be the best.

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    Sasaki sagte, die Nachbehandlung wurde zwei anderen Ärzten übertragen, was MJ dachte, wären am besten. (sie wären – oder es wäre - am besten?)


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki: The medical care, which included post operation and pain management, were taken out of my hands willingly.

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    Sasaki: Die medizinische Betreuung, die nach Operative Schmerzbehandlung beinhaltet wurden willentlich aus meinen Händen genommen.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Second surgery was on October 31, 1997 for scar revision to reduce the width of the reduced scar on the scalp.

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    Die 2. OP war am 31 10 1997, nochmal wegen der Narbe und um die Ausweitung der reduzierten Narbe zu verkleinern.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

March 16, 1993 was the first surgery Dr. Sasaki performed on MJ. It was to reduce scar on the scalp, the bald spot.

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    16.3.1993 war die erste OP durch Sasaki. Sie fand statt um die Narbe, die kahle Stelle am Kopf zu reduzieren.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki said he did two surgeries on MJ's scalp and 3 on the upper lip for contouring.

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    Dr. Sasaki sagt, er machte 2 Ops an Mjs Kophaut, und 3 an der Oberlippe zur Konturierung.


    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He laughed at that last comment.


    Q: Did you ever provide medical treatment to MJ?
    A: Yes, I did.

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    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Dr. Sasaki served in Vietnam and wore several hats as doctor, including anesthesia and plastic surgery on days off.

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    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

He went to Yale University for his medical school, graduated in 1968.

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    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Q: Question by attorney
    A: Answer by Dr. Sasaki


    He graduated from Pomona College in 1964, degree in Bachelor of Arts.

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    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts‬ 13 Aug 

Jury entered at 3:27 pm PT. Katherine Jackson left for the day.


    AEG called their next witness via video deposition Dr Gordon Hiroshi Sasaki

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  • Mein Gott, ist das krass, was Michael alles durchgemacht hat mit seinem Brandunfall. Dass er oft und heftige Schmerzen hatte, das wusste ich, aber dass er so schlimme Probleme hatte, das war mir neu. In der Öffentlichkeit hat ihm seine gesundheitlichen Probleme nie angemerkt. Auch wenn er eine niedrige Schmerztoleranz hatte, hat er seine Schmerzen doch sehr tapfer ertragen.. Ach, Michael... :depri

  • 18. August 2013


    Am Donnerstag kehrte Debbie Rowe, Michaels ex-Frau in den Zeugenstand zurück. Dabei ging es u.a. um Paris Jackson, ihre mit Michael gemeinsame Tochter, sowie Michaels niedrige Schmerztoleranz und seine Ärzte.


    Debbie sagte, dass sie Paris näher stehe als ihrem Sohn Prince und dass sie oft miteinander telefonieren oder sich texten. Als sie gefragt wurde, wie sich Michaels frühzeitiger Tod auf Paris ausgewirkt habe, sagte Debbie: “Ihr Vater ist tot. Ich habe fast meine Tochter verloren. Sie ist am Boden zerstört,” weinte Rowe im Zeugenstand. “Sie hat versucht, sich das Leben zu nehmen… Sie hat das Gefühl, sie habe kein Leben mehr”, so Rowe. Paris wird zur Zeit noch immer in der Klinik behandelt als Auswirkung ihres Selbstmordversuches Anfang Juni.


    Am Mittwoch drehte sich Debbies Befragung durch AEG Anwalt Marvin Putnam um die rezeptpflichtigen Medikamente im Zusammenhang mit der Kopfhautoperation nach dem Unfall beim Pepsi-Dreh sowie zwei Momente auf Tour in Deutschland, als Ärzte Michael mit Propofol behandelten, um seine Schlafprobleme zu lösen. Die ersten Aussagen am Donnerstag waren im Zusammenhang mit Michael Jacksons Hautproblemen, inkl. der Weissfleckenkrankheit Vitiligo. “Alle sagten, er bleiche seine Haut, aber das stimmte nicht”, so Rowe. Viele der Besuche bei Dr. Arnold Klein, wo Debbie Rowe 18 Jahre lang als medizinische Assistentin gearbeitet hatte, waren im Zusammenhang mit der Behandlung von Vitiligo. Michael machte sich Sorgen, “dass die Leute seine Krankheit oder die Entstellung sehen würden,” so Debbie. Debbie Rowe erwähnte zudem, dass Michael Jackson an Diskoiden Lupus erythematodes (Hautlupus) litt, die sein Hautgewebe erweichte, v.a. an der Kopfhaut.


    Wie am Mittwoch bereits erwähnt, ging es bei Debbie Rowes Aussage auch um die Behandlung von Michaels Schlafproblemen mittels Propofol durch zwei deutsche Ärzte, zweimal während der HIStory Tour in München. Dr. Allen Metzger, der damalige Hausarzt von Michael Jackson, hatte dies arrangiert, nachdem Michael sich über akute Schlafprobleme beklagt hatte und die ordentlichen Schlafmedikamente auch keine Wirkung gezeigt hatten. “Ich glaube, sie hatten es versucht, und es hatte nicht funktioniert, und wenn er nicht schlafen konnte, konnte er auch nicht performen”, so Debbie. Michael Jackson “war am Ende seiner Kräfte; er wusste nicht, was er sonst tun sollte.” Nach acht Stunden unter dem Einfluss des “schlaffördernden” Mittels Propofol habe er sich besser gefühlt und so entschied er, sich nach dem zweiten Auftritt in München noch einmal einer Propofolbehandlung zu unterziehen. CNN erinnerte daran, dass Dr. Metzger beim Prozess gegen Conrad Murray ausgesagt hatte, dass er bei Propofolbehandlungen für Michael Jackson nie involviert gewesen war und er sich erst viel später über Propofol bewusst wurde.


    Was ihre frühere Aussage anbelangte, dass Michael Jackson auch in Frankreich während der HIStory Tour Propofol verabreicht wurde, angelangt, so hatte sie dies diese Woche berichtig bzw. widerrufen.


    1993 wurde Michael Jackson wegen seiner Verbrennung infolge des Pepsi-Drehunfalls 1984 operiert. Seine Ärzte waren nicht im Stande, seine Schmerzen unter Kontrolle zu halten bzw. zu beseitigen und zwei Ärzte hatten sich damals konkurrenziert, wer ihm das bessere Medikament verabreichen konnte, so Debbie Rowe. Debbie hielt fest, dass Michael eine sehr niedrige Schmerztoleranz hatte “und seine Angst vor Schmerzen war unglaublich. Und ich glaube, die Ärzte hatten dies ausgenutzt”.


    Debbie Rowe sagte auch aus, dass viele der Ärzte, die Michael behandelten, “Idioten” waren, einschliesslich Dr. Arnold Klein, für den sie von 1979 bis 1996 gearbeitet hatte. “Michael hatte einen riesigen Respekt vor Ärzten, dass sie zur Schule gegangen waren, studiert hatten… um keinem zu schaden”, so Debbie Rowe. “Leider entschieden einige dieser Ärzte, dass wenn Michael Schmerzen hatte oder so, sie versuchen würden, sich gegenseitig zu überbieten, wer ihm das bessere Medikament geben könnte, und er hörte auf diese Ärzte” und vertraute ihnen.


    Dr. Metzger hatte einen Plan aufgestellt, Michael Jackson dabei zu helfen, vom Schmerzmittel Demerol loszukommen, das er erstmals wegen seiner Schmerzen an der Kopfhaut 1984 erhalten hatte. Aus dem Plan wurde jedoch nichts, als Michael Jackson mit der “Dangerous” Tour weiterfuhr, so Debbie Rowe. Nach sechs Wochen, als die Tour im Herbst 1993 Mexico City erreicht hatte, war Michael Jackson, wie uns bereits ausreichend bekannt ist, in einem miserablen Zustand. “Er war deprimiert” (dies war die Zeit, als Michael Jackson des sexuellen Missbrauchs an Jodie Chandler bezichtigt wurde). “Er hatte irgendwas genommen. Ich weiss nicht was oder woher er es hatte”. Nachdem sie drei Tage lang diskutiert und gestritten hatten, sagte Debbie Rowe, dass sie Michael Jackson davon überzeugen konnte, seine Tour frühzeitig zu beenden und sich zwecks Medikamentenentzug in eine Klinik einzuweisen zu lassen. “Du musst dich dem stellen, was da abgeht und dann schaffen wir das”, so Debbie zu Michael. Debbie Rowe sagte, dass Michael Jacksons Medikamentengebrauch kein Geheimnis war unter den Leuten der “Dangerous” Tour Produktion. AEG Lives Co-CEO Paul Gongaware, zur Erinnerung, war damals Tourmanager.


    Debbie Rowe sagte auch aus, dass der plastische Chirurg, Dr. Steven Hoefflin, in zwei Fällen ein Prozedur vorgetäuscht hatte. Michael Jackson hatte sich über schmerzhafte Narben an seiner Nase beklagt und war zu Dr. Hoefflin gegangen, damit dieser ihm Kollagen spritzen konnte. Hoefflin hatte Michael gesagt, dass er die Prozeduren vorgenommen hatte, obwohl dies nicht stimmte. “Er hatte Michael unter Narkose gestellt und hatte nichts gemacht, ausser ihn bandagiert, wie wenn er ihn behandelt hätte”, so Debbie Rowe. Dr. Hoefflin hatte ihr damals gesagt, er habe dies gemacht, weil er die Narben, von denen Michael dachte, dass sie da waren, nicht finden konnte.


    Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, latimes.com


    Copyright © jackson.ch ____________

  • Moment mal irgendetwas stimmt hier nicht 1993, ist liz Taylor nach Mexico geflogen um Mj zu helfen und hat dafür gesorgt das Mj in eine Klinik kommt. Von Debbie war damals nochgar nicht die Rede. Kann es sein das Debbie das mit der History Tour verwechselt. weil zu Dangerous Zeit war Lisa Marie an seiner Seite zwar noch nicht verheiratet aber sie trafen sich schon. so hab ich es in einem meiner Bücher gelesen . kann mich jemand aufklären?

  • ^ Nur weil wir das nicht mitbekommen, heißt es ja nicht, dass sie nicht an seiner Seite war. Sie war ja Anfang der 90er "nur" seine Krankenschwester, die praktisch von den Ärzten geschickt worden ist, um sich um Michael zu kümmern.


    Natürlich war Elizabeth Taylor diejenige, die Michael in die Entzugsklinik brachte und Lisa war auch an seiner Seite, aber Debbie wurde damals wohl noch nicht wahrgenommen. Man "kannte" sie erst, als sie Michael heiratete und von ihm schwanger wurde. Michael und Debbie kannten sich ja schon viele Jahre vorher, sie ist aber noch nicht in Erscheinung getreten. Grace hat ja zu der Zeit auch schon für Michael gearbeitet und keiner kannte sie. Michael hatte sein Leben lang so viele Menschen um sich, aber wen hat man denn als Fan großartig richtig wahrgenommen? Kaum einen...

  • ^ sehr richtig, mike und debbie kennen sich seit den 80ern,
    aber nen arzt/nen berater/ne krankenschwester sieht man in der regel ja wohl nicht
    an der seite eines künstlers.
    solche treffen spielen sich im hintergrund ab. im hotel (wie debbie ja auch oft betont)
    oder mal backstage etc. nicht vor der bühne oder vor den hoteleingang wenn die paparazzi lange hälse machen.
    bei sowas muss man vorssichtig sein, als star, weil sonst alle möglichen spekulationen losgehen.
    da is man dann gleich verlobt oder sterbenskrank.
    und das wäre wohl wenig förderlich, wenn man ne megatour bestreiten soll..:Q

  • Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP
    AEG Live is seeking a dismissal of the case, claiming the plaintiffs haven’t shown enough evidence to send the case to the jury. AEG's motion won't be heard until Sept. 5 so that all the lawyers who need to argue it can be present.
    AEG hat ja einen Antrag auf Abweisung der Klage gestellt, da die Jackson-Seite nicht genügend Beweise gezeigt habe, um den Fall den Geschworenen zu übergeben. Über den Antrag werde es eine Anhörung geben, jedoch nicht vor dem 5.9.




    Gepostet von Ivy:


    - Jacksons ordered to give AEG, Katherine's finances including payroll, household budget and family finances from 2003 to present.


    Die Jacksons seien angewiesen worden, Katherines Finanzen zu dokumentieren, einschließlich Gehaltslisten, Haushaltsbudget und Familienfinanzen seit 2003 bis heute.





    Anthony McCartney
    ‏ AEG Live plans to play three video depositions tomorrow: Jeffrey Adams, Dr. David Adams and Dr. Stephen Gordon.


    Als nächstes sollen 3 Depositionen per Video gezeigt werden: Jeffrey Adams, Dr. David Adams und Dr. Stephen Gordon.

  • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 71 – August 16 2013 – Summary


    In addition to testimony, one development this morning was that the plaintiff's rested their case. Attorney Brian Panish didn't want to but Judge Yvette Palazuelos told him she would tell the jury the plaintiff's case was done if he didn't. The judge said it didn't foreclose Panish from calling additional witnesses during his rebuttal case. Plaintiff's resting will allow for argument on an AEG motion to dismiss the case at some point. No word on when those arguments will happen. Panish told the jury that the plaintiff's case officially ended after Kenny Ortega's testimony was done. Judge called it a "formality." (AP) After jury entered the room, plaintiffs attorney Brian Panish announced he has rested their case in chief, subject to conclusion with Ortega



    Dr. Gary Green Testimony



    (Source : ABC7)



    AEG direct



    Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina is doing direct examination.


    Dr. Green is a doctor board certified in internal medicine and sports medicine. He's currently the head team physician for Pepperdine University and is the medical director performance enhancement drugs for MLB. He oversees medical care of athletes both in minor and major leagues of baseball, also sees general students at Pepperdine, not just athletes. The doctor conducts research on behalf of MLB at UCLA pathology department regarding enhancement drug use. He's also a clinical professor at UCLA and a partner at primary care group, sees general patients as well. Dr. Green is the team physician for the US Soccer team and Pepperdine, worked in Olympic Games of 2002, MLB, NCAA, was UCLA team physician.


    Dr Green said sports medicine is somewhat like regular medicine. "Doctors should do no harm; doctors should do what's best for the patient" He said he always wanted to be a family doctor and treat patients for all their lives. Dr. Green said before athletes know what medical problem they have, they want to know when they can play next.


    Dr. Green said he has similar or greater experience that Dr. Gordon Matheson, since Dr. Matheson doesn't have private practice. Dr. Matheson testified earlier in the trial on behalf of plaintiffs.


    Dr. Green worked with O'Melveny & Myers before in a case involving Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. The expert said he was surprise being called in this case, since it has nothing to do with athletes. Dr. Green reviewed extensive material, deposition and trial testimony in this case. The doctor said he spent about 115 hours in this case, bills $500 per hour. He said he's billed approximately $20,000 to $25,000 up-to-date. There will be about $25,000 to $30,000 to be billed, total approximately $50,000.


    Bina asked if he agrees with Dr. Matheson this is a conflict of interest case. "I disagree with Dr. Matheson completely," Dr. Green said.


    Dr. Green's opinion:
    1- Sports medicine is the wrong analogy
    2- Facts don't support conflict of interest alleged by Dr. Matheson
    3- Conflict of interest alleged did not lead to poor medical care
    4- Dr. Matheson disregarded key principles to reach his conclusions


    Dr. Green said this case is much closer to regular doctor-patient medicine than sports medicine. Doctors have ethical obligation to do no harm to the patient," he said. "There's conflict of interest on a daily basis between doc/patient" Dr. Green said through experience doctors learn very quickly how to manage conflicts and have the patient's best interest first.


    1- Sports Medicine is the Wrong Analogy


    A: Who selects doctor?
    Team Sports: Team/School
    Primary Care Practice: Patient
    This Case: Patient


    Dr. Green said in team sports, the team or school chooses the doctor. In primary care practice and in this case, MJ chose the doctor. "In my private practice, I'm selected by the patient." Dr. Green said. "They choose whether they want to come see me or not." Dr. Green: MJ brought Dr. Murray to the attention of AEG Live and MJ insisted to bring the doctor on tour. At one point, AEG explored other options and MJ wanted his physician, Dr. Green testified. The expert said there's no evidence Dr. Murray has been asked to treat anyone else but MJ and perhaps the children.


    Doc said in team sports player, coach, team, public have the right to information from doctor. In private practice/this case only patient. Dr. Murray was not allowed to share any information wit AEG Live or anyone else, the doctor testified. There's no release form to share info.


    Dr Green said plaintiffs hired Dr Matheson to say that this was a sports medicine analogy. "It's just not the correct analysis in this case" Dr. Green said one of the articles Dr. Matheson used is entitled "The Unique Aspects of Sports Medicine," and this is not the same. Dr. Green explained the Jackson family claim there was conflict between AEG and Murray to influence the type of medical care used with MJ.


    Dr. Green explained that in order for conflict of interest to exist, each party had to have different interests. "MJ wanted to remain healthy to do the tour," he said. "Dr. Murray wanted MJ to be healthy, it's his ethical obligation and he wanted him to complete the tour," he said. "AEG Live needed a healthy MJ to be in good health, this was a long tour," he expressed. Bina: If there were no tour, do you have any reason to believe Dr. Murray would be paid $150,000 a month? Dr. Green: No, I do not. "It was Dr. Murray's interest to keep MJ healthy to have him perform the shows," Dr. Green opined.



    2- Facts Don't Support Alleged Conflicts


    - Health interests of MJ, Dr. Murray and AEG Live were aligned
    - - No secret arrangement
    - Jackson requested Dr. Murray
    - Dr. Murray demonstrated independence from AEG Live
    ---- Advised MJ not to go to rehearsal
    ---- Told tour personnel to "stay in their lane"
    ---- Refused to provide medical records to insurers
    ---- Requested contract changes to increase independence
    - Evidence does not support claim that AEG Live directed medical care
    - Timing of contract drafts doesn't support Matheson's claims


    "There's no secret arrangement," Dr. Green said. "In this situation, everything was out in the open." Dr. Green: It was to be signed by Dr. Murray, MJ and AEG Live. There was nothing hidden. Dr. Green: Dr. Murray knew AEG Live would be advancing the money on behalf of MJ, MJ knew AEG would advance the money. "That was selected by Michael Jackson," Dr. Green opined. "There was no secrecy, he requested Dr. Murray to go on tour." "If there was any secrecy was between Murray and MJ," Dr. Green opined. "There's no evidence AEG was aware Murray was giving MJ Propofol." "AEG was not controlling Dr. Murray," Dr. Green said. "He acted independently from AEG." "If Dr. Murray were taking orders from AEG Live, he'd not have told people to stay in their lane," Dr. Green opined. Dr. Green said Dr. Murray refused to provide his own medical records of MJ to insurers. MJ denied releasing the medical history. The expert said Dr. Murray requested Kathy Jorrie to change the contract to have more independence. "He asked to keep money for the entire money should he be discharged mid-month," Dr. Green testified. Dr. Green pointed out Dr. Murray asked to change the contract to limit him to perform services requested by artist, not producer. "I believe that it further demonstrates Dr. Murray's independence from AEG Live."


    Dr. Green said that it's not unusual for family/friends to call him to talk about a patient he's about to see. He said family/friends may tell him things that the patient wouldn't. The expert said that in all the meetings, there were several people present, which supports the fact there was no secrecy.


    First draft of the contract was June 16. "Dr. Murray's behavior in this case and care to MJ began way before that," Dr. Green explained. "If Dr. Matheson is correct and terms of contract influenced Murray's behavior, he started treating him way before contract draft" he said “There's no evidence of Michael Jackson use of Propofol to AEG," Dr. Green opined. Timeline per Dr. Green: 2006 -- Dr Murray begins treating Jackson family January 2009 -- Dr. Murray treated Prince and Michael in LA. Dr. Green: MJ had a physical in 2009 with Dr. Slavit. He asked who was his personal physician and MJ said Dr. Murray. Kai Chase testified Dr. Murray was frequently at Carolwood house in April, May and June 2009. On April 6, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered Propofol to be shipped to LA, the expert said. Dr. Green pointed out that all of that happened before AEG Live had any knowledge of Dr. Murray. Dr. Green: I think it's very clear the relationship of Murray-MJ pre-date AEG being involved. Furthermore, his use of Propofol pre-dates AEG. Dr. Murray re-ordered Propofol on April 28, 2009, Dr. Green said.


    "Not only do I disagree with Dr. Matheson's conclusion but the manner of which he came to his conclusion," Dr. Green said. "Patients and competent adults have the right to choose their own physician," Dr. Green testified. "In this case, MJ chose Dr. Murray as his own physician and wanted him to go on tour," Dr. Green opined. Dr. Green: AEG Live looked at other possibilities and in response MJ, a competent adult, said no, I want my own doctor. "Continuity of care is a very important principle," Dr. Green explain. That way the doctor knows the history of the patient. Dr. Green said Dr. Matheson wanted AEG to go around MJ and find another physician for him.


    Dr. Green: Physician's duty to the patient is paramount, and that's the number one priority and what doctors should always be concerned. "Physicians are under the obligation, regarding any interest, to put their patients first," Dr. Green expressed. Dr. Green said Dr. Murray disregarded the Hippocratic oath, standard of care and probably violated prescribing rules.




    Jackson cross



    Jacksons' attorney William Bloss did cross examination.


    Bloss: Would you agree large incentives can create conflict of interest? Dr. Green: Yes, financial incentive can create conflict of interest. "Regardless financial incentive, it does not take away from physician's obligation to the patient," Dr. Green explained.


    Code of Ethics of American Medical Association. Bloss showed opinion of "Financial Incentives and the Practice of Medicine." a) Large incentives may create conflict of interest that can in turn compromise clinical objectivity. AMA says: "It's important to recognize that sufficient large incentives can create an untenable position for physicians."


    "Financial rewards do not obligate physicians to compromise their medical judgment," Dr. Green opined.


    Bloss: Is $150,000 a month a large incentive? Dr. Green: It depends on the situation. Bloss asked how about a doctor whose house is about to go on foreclosure, $600,000 in outstanding debt, behind child support payment? "I'm sure many doctors have great deal of debt, possibly more than that, and still practice medicine in an ethical manner," Dr Green said


    Bloss showed Kai Chase's testimony, where she said she didn't see Dr. Murray as much in April, was there about 3 times a week. Dr. Green said he was not accurate when he mentioned Chase said Dr. Murray was at Carolwood in March of 2009.


    Dr. Green said on April 19, 2009, Dr. Metzger went to Carolwood to meet MJ. He said MJ asked for sleep medication. Bloss: Do you recall MJ asked Cherilyn Lee to give him sleep aid? I don't recall dates, need to see the testimony. Bloss: If a nurse says there were no equipments at the house 4 Murray to inject MJ w/ Propofol on Apr19 is that inconsistent? Dr. Green: No. Bloss: Do you have information MJ was seeking Propofol from people other than Dr. Murray? Dr. Green: Yes, Dr. Metzger and Cherilyn Lee. On Apr 19, MJ asked Cherilyn Lee to find someone to give him Propofol, Bloss said. He asked if it'd be consistent w/ Murray there same day. Dr. Green: We see addicts and they go to multiple sources, I could only speculate why MJ was seeking Propofol from more than one person. "It's not inconsistent somebody seeking drugs from several sources" Dr Green said. "Particularly with that drug which wasn't easy to obtain"


    Bloss: Was Dr. Murray giving MJ Propofol on April 19th and 12th at Carolwood? Dr. Green: Yes. Dr. Green said he cannot testify to the exact date because Dr. Murray kept no records to maintain it secretive.


    Dr. Green charges AEG $3,000 per half day of work, $6,000 for full day.


    Bloss showed email from Ortega to Gongaware on Jun 14, 2009 saying "Are you aware MJ's doctor didn't permit him to attend rehearsals today?" "This just shows Dr. Murray independence to advise MJ not to attend rehearsal," Dr. Green said. Email from Gongaware: "We want to remind him that it's AEG, not MJ, who is paying his salary." Dr. Green said the best person to ask about this email is who wrote it/received it. Since he's neither, it'd speculation to interpret it. "I believe Mr. Gongaware didn't recall this email," Dr. Green said. "Mr. Ortega said he didn't understand what it meant." Bloss: Is this email material to your opinion? Dr. Green: Yes, I feel that it supports my opinion. Bloss: Even the part that says "AEG, not MJ, paying his salary?" Dr. Green: Yes. Dr. Green said in his deposition that nothing in the email supported his opinion. He said he testified differently at deposition. Bloss asked in deposition whether "AEG, not MJ, paying his salary" email did not influence his opinion, correct? "Yes," Dr. Green responded. Dr. Green: Now that I responded differently is because I had additional information. Dr. Green: One is Mr. Gongaware's testimony, and further reviewed evidence this was never communicated to Dr. Murray. "The fact that it was never communicated to Dr. Murray let me believe it was not influencing," Dr. Green explained. Dr. Green said he doesn't believe either Gongaware or anyone else at AEG told Dr. Murray "it's AEG, not MJ, who's paying his salary." "You need to look at the context of this email, you can't just pull out a word here or there," Dr. Green said. Bloss asked if "we want him to understand what's expected of him" mention in the email influenced his opinion. "No, it would not sway my opinion one way or the other," Dr. Green said. Dr. Green said he did not ask to meet with Gongaware or Phillips to try to get more information about the email and their intent.


    Bloss asked about the meeting at Carolwood's house on June 16, 2009, which they called "intervention." He asked if Chase said Dr. Murray bursted out of the meeting and said "I can't take this s**t anymore." "I read the testimony of of Ms. Chase and that was her perception," Dr. Green said. Mr. Gongaware had a much different account of the meeting than what Chase testified, Bloss said. Dr. Green said Chase wasn't present for the entire meeting, but Gongaware was. He would give a little more weight to Gongaware since he was present for the full meeting. "Assuming that Chase's recollection is correct, I think there are many interpretations of Dr. Murray's outburst," Dr. Green said. Bloss asked if it could be that Dr. Murray was feeling pressured by AEG. Dr. Green: It could be that Dr. Murray could be feeling pressured he was giving unethical and illegal drugs. "That certainly could create pressure in Dr. Murray to make an outburst like that," Dr. Green said. "There was nothing to suggest in the meeting that Dr. Murray was in danger of losing the gig." Dr. Green said.


    Dr. Green didn't receive the "Trouble at the Front" email chain until after he was involved in the case. Bloss showed Bugzee's email saying MJ was basket case. "Only information that MJ was not in good health on June 19," Dr Green said about it. "Dr. Murray wasn't keeping records at this time, but I believe MJ was under his care," Dr. Green said. Bloss showed the email where Ortega said "now that we brought the doctor in to the fold." Dr. Green said this email showed Ortega was concerned with MJ's health. He doesn't know what the director meant by "doctor in to the fold." Bloss: Because you didn't understand what this meant, this email didn't influence you, correct? "I think you have to put this entire thing in context and the context is that he was concerned with Mr. Jackson's health" Dr Green explained. Dr. Green said several people raised questions about MJ's psychological situation.


    Dr. Green said he believes Dr. Murray was board certified but it had lapsed in 2008. Murray does not have psychiatry training.


    Bloss talked about the lengthy conversation Randy Phillips with Dr. Murray. He asked if he knew for sure what they talked about. He said no. Bloss asked about another Phillips' email.


    Panish laughed out loud when Dr. Green responded he recalls testimony but preferred reading again. Judge called Panish out, he apologized. Judge ordered all the attorneys in her chambers for quick sidebar. Back in the courtroom in front of jury: Panish: Your honor, I'd like to apologize to Dr. Green for that laugh. Dr. Green: Apologies accepted. Panish: I'm sincerely sorry Dr. Green: No harm, no foul


    Bloss talked about "this doctor is extremely successful, we checked him out." Dr. Green said he thought Phillips meant that based on Kathy Jorrie's testimony regarding the check she did.


    "I do not see anything to change my opinion of conflict of interest in this case," Dr. Green said. Bloss showed another part of the "Trouble at the Front" email with Phillips saying "Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow." Bloss asked if that statement was material to his opinion. "Only that AEG was concerned about what was going on and were doing something about it," Dr. Green said.


    Dr. Green said he considered all the evidence in the case, since everything is important. Dr. Green sad he's not sure what Phillips meant when he asked "is it chemical or physiological." "I can only speculate."


    Dr Green said he was asked to analyze if this is a sports medicine case and whether or not conflict of interest led to his poor medical care


    ---------------------------------


    Judge adjourned trial. Attorneys ordered back at 10:45 am PT on Monday, jurors at 1:30 pm PT. Dr. Green returns then.

  • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 72 – August 19 2013 – Summary


    Jackson family is not in court



    Dr. Gary Green Testimony



    Jackson cross


    Green is an expert on medical conflicts of interest who is testifying for AEG Live. He is refuting testimony by a plaintiff’s expert. (AP) Dr. Green said over the weekend he reviewed his testimony from Friday, reviewed materials provided earlier and met with AEG attorneys. (ABC7)


    Bloss: Do you remember Dr Matheson testifying that it didn’t appear Phillips had full recollection of phone call between Phillips-Murray? Dr. Green: Yes, it appears from Mr. Phillips’ testimony he does not have a full recollection of the phone call. Dr. Green: Phillips wasn’t able to recall the specifics content of the phone call, but he wrote email that could indicate of what was spoken. “There’s no evidence that Mr Phillips put any pressure on Dr. Murray in that phone call,” Dr. Green explained. Dr. Green said he has not seen any evidence showing Phillips put pressure on Dr. Murray. (ABC7)


    Bloss asked Green about the 20+ minute phone call that Phillips had with Murray before the June 20, 2009 meeting. Green was asked to assume that Phillips threatened or pressured Dr. Murray, and whether that changed his opinions in the case. “Assuming he made that threat, that does not change my conclusions,” Green said. (AP)


    Bloss asked how Dr. Green reconciled any inconsistency in testimonies. He said he looked if any of them relate to his opinion in the case. “In this case, my opinions are the same as I stated the other day,” Dr. Green expressed. Bloss: Was there any fact inconsistent with your opinion? Dr. Green: Not that I can recall at this time. Bloss: You said your opinion was based on Phillips, Ortega and Gongaware, correct? Dr. Green: That was part of it. (ABC7)


    Bloss: Is the basis of your conclusion that AEG Live did not direct Dr. Murray’s action the testimony of Phillips, Gongaware and Ortega? Dr. Green: Part of it yes, but I may have seen other evidence leading me to that conclusion. (ABC7)


    Bloss showed email chain “Trouble at the Front” and meeting on June 20, 2009. (ABC7) Bloss showed Green several emails the jury’s seen throughout the case, including one of AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips’ emails to Kenny Ortega. That message told Ortega not to be any amateur psychiatrist or physician and try to diagnose Michael Jackson’s health issues. Bloss asked Green whether that email changed his opinion that AEG didn’t create a conflict of interest for Conrad Murray. Green said no. (AP)


    “There were several accounts of that meeting,” Dr. Green said Bloss: Do you recall Dr. Murray telling AEG to “stay in your lane” and that it showed independency? “There’s a little bit of dispute as to what really happened at that meeting,” Dr. Green testified. (ABC7) Green was asked about his recollection of the testimony about a June 20, 2009 meeting between Ortega, Phillips, Murray and Jackson. The doctor initially said he thought Murray had told Ortega and Phillips to stay out of Jackson’s medical care, but Green recalled after some additional questions by Bloss that Murray’s comments were directed only at Kenny Ortega. (AP)


    Dr Green: In my opinion in this case the health interests were aligned and there were no conflict of interests that led to poor medical care (ABC7)


    Dr Green said when Phillips asked what was wrong with MJ it could be Murray was following privacy laws not disclosing MJ’s medical condition. Bloss asked if Dr. Murray said ‘sorry, I can’t tell you what’s wrong because of HIPPA privacy laws’? “There’s not requirement that Dr. Murray would have to say that,” Dr. Green opined. (ABC7)


    “There’s seems not to be any evidence that Dr. Murray was pressured,” Dr. Green said. “It was ultimately up to Dr. Murray to make decisions in the best interest of his patient and he didn’t do that,” Dr. Green opined. Bloss: Even if Mr. Phillips threatened to cancel the tour, that doesn’t change your opinion? Dr. Green: It still does not take away Dr. Murray’s responsibility with the patient. (ABC7)


    Bloss played video depo of Dr Green. He said he accepted as true Phillips’ accounting of what happened in that meeting to issue his opinion. “Mr. Phillip testified under oath, I credited his opinion,” Dr. Green said. He said he also credited other testimony as well, such as Ortega “I have no way of resolving which way is true,” Dr. Green explained about different accounts of the meeting. (ABC7)


    Dr. Green said he’s aware of two people feeling MJ needed psychiatric help and some people being afraid MJ could die. Bloss asked about Phillips saying it was not the right time to introduce a new person into MJ’s life after psychiatric help was suggested. Bloss showed email from Hougdahl saying he has watched MJ deteriorate for the past 8 weeks and the singer needed a shrink to get thru all. Dr. Green said he’s not sure if he was given copy of this email to review before or after his deposition. After reading his depo, he recalled he had not received it until after the depo and did not consider this email in his conclusion. (ABC7)


    Dr. Matheson brought an article entitled “Conflict of Interest in Medical Research, Education, and Practice” to his deposition. The definition Dr. Matheson testified about conflict of interest is not the same formal definition Dr. Green relied upon. “Conflicts of interest are defined as circumstances that create a risk that professional judgments or actions regarding a primary interest.. will be unduly influenced by a secondary interest.” Bloss asked if the agreed with the definition above. “I agree that it’s a reasonable definition but not the only one,” Dr. Green said. Another article Dr. Matheson brought to his deposition: Conflict of interest refers to a “set of conditions in which professional judgment concerning a primary interest (patient’s welfare or the validity of research) is unduly influenced by a secondary interest (financial gain)” Bloss: Do you agree with that? Dr. Green: Yes, that’s a reasonable definition. (ABC7) Green agreed that many were valid definitions of conflicts of interest, but that he didn’t agree that money always created a conflict issue. (AP)


    Bloss showed another article "Principles for Identifying and Assessing Conflicts of Interests." Bloss: Do you agree that financial interest is the most powerful corroding force in a conflict of interest? Dr. Green: In my experience, however, I've seen physicians do all sort of things for reasons other than financial. Dr. Green said he's not aware there's way to rate the most powerful conflict of interest. He believes financial interest can create conflict. Bloss showed a report, which summarizes physicians' statements. "When individuals stand to gain by reaching a particular conclusion, they tend to unconsciously and unintentionally weight evidence is a biased fashion." Dr. Green said psychologically speaking, he agrees with the statement above. "I agree money can corrode professional responsibility but I'm not sure it's the most corroding thing in conflict of interest" Dr Green said. Dr. Green said he agreed that the greater the value the more probable its influence is. He highlighted the word 'probable,' though. (ABC7)


    Bloss showed Dr. Green MLB's policy on assessment and management of concussion on ballplayers. Policy was adopted in 2010 or 2011. Since then, MLB has to review team physician's actions before an athlete is allowed to return to play. Dr. Green said his position is more of an administrative position with MLB, he doesn't see the patients. He is responsible to make sure the latest rules regarding concussion is followed. He said it's a very controversial area. Bloss asked if the reason team does not have unilateral power to have athlete return to play is because of potential conflict of interest. Dr. Green responded the reason is because there's competition. "It's not about trusting the team's physician, it's about the competition." Dr Green testify he/MLB can deny a team physician's request to put a player back on the field after a concussion. The union doc also opines. Bloss asked if the reason is because there could be conflict of interest between team physician and his responsibility with the player. "Yes, in very small part," Dr. Green responded. "Part of my responsibility is to return athletes to play," he said. (ABC7) Bloss asked about Green’s work with Major League Baseball, specifically its concussion policy. Green reviews team doctors’ decision when a player suffers a concussion. He said a team doctor cannot return a player who has a concussion to a game without outside review. Green said the MLB policy isn’t about conflict of interests, but making sure no team had a competitive advantage “We have rules for everything, how you wear your socks, how you do everything,” Green said. “It has to do with the competitive balance.” (AP)


    Bloss said on Jun 14 Gongaware's sent email saying "we need to remind him it's AEG, not MJ who's paying his salary"/"what's expected of him". Then on June 16 Dr. Murray received first draft of the contract agreement with provision that if tour were canceled the agreement would too. Dr. Green said that everyday after June 16, 2009, Dr. Murray knew about that provision. And that included June 24 and 25, the say MJ died. (ABC7)


    Bloss asked about meeting nurse Cherilyn Lee had w/ MJ at some point. She testified on April 19 MJ complained of having trouble sleeping. MJ asked Lee to find a doctor who would give him Propofol. Dr. Green said this happened 13 days after Dr. Murray ordered Propofol. (ABC7)


    Dr. Green is a clinical professor at UCLA, approximately 16 hours/week. He said there are clinical and tenure tracks. Dr. Green has no experience in the music business, has never worked in concert or for promoter of concerts. (ABC7)


    "There could be conflict of interest in any case," Dr. Green said. Bloss asked if having a sole patient increases the risk. He said it could. Bloss: Does Dr. Murray's financial status matters at all to your opinion? Dr. Green: No, it does not. "I had a general impression that he was in debt," Dr. Green said. He believes his understanding was based on media reports on Dr. Murray. (ABC7)


    Bloss asked if Detective Martinez suspected financial motive for Murray to violate Hippocratic oath. Dr. Green said that's what he testified. Bloss asked if getting easy money, $150,000 a month, created an incentive to bend the rules. "Yes, and I believe he (Det. Martinez) testified it was Dr. Murray's decision," Dr. Green said. (ABC7) Bloss also asked about testimony by LAPD Det. Orlando Martinez, who said he believed Murray needed money and that influenced his actions. (AP)


    Bloss: Is that true you cannot say why Dr. Murray acted ethically in this case? "Not knowing Dr. Murray and not hearing his testimony, I cannot say with certainty why Dr. Murray committed this crime," Dr. Green said. (ABC7) Green: “I cannot say within a reasonable degree of medical probability why Dr. Murray committed this crime.” (AP)


    The doctor was asked whether he’d ever seen an agreement similar to the one between AEG Live, Jackson and Murray. Green said no (AP ) Bloss: Have you ever seen a three-way relationship between a physician, a patient and a third party? Dr. Green: No, nothing like this. Dr. Green testified his understanding is that AEG Live was going to advance money to Dr. Murray on behalf of Michael Jackson. Dr. Green agreed Dr. Murray's contract termination could be done by MJ and multiple ways by AEG Live unilateral. "I agree that the longer the tour went on, the more financial gain Dr. Murray would have," Dr. Green testified. (ABC7)


    Based on MJ's physical condition in June 2009, Dr. Green said he has no reasonable opinion whether the tour should've been postponed or not. (ABC7)


    Bloss concluded his questioning, and AEG Live defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina took over on re-direct. (AP)



    AEG redirect


    In re-cross Dr Green said he was retained in the case on March 4, 2013 to consider his expertise in sports medicine and conflict of interest . He was also asked to review Dr. Matheson's testimony. Dr. Green listed the depositions and declarations he reviewed prior to his own deposition. Dr Green attended almost all of Dr Matheson's deposition. He said he wanted to hear him saying his opinion as opposed to reading it on paper. Dr. Green: I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Matheson. If I had agreed with Dr. Matheson's opinion, I'd have communicated it to AEG. Dr. Green said there has been cases where he gave opinion that the attorneys ended up not using in their cases. Dr. Green: I considered the evidence and I came to my own conclusions. Dr. Green: My practice is that I present them to the attorneys and whatever they want to do with that is their business, not mine. "The more information I found, the more it strengthen my opinion," Dr. Green testified. (ABC7) She asked Green what he would have done if his opinion was the same as a plaintiff’s expert. He said he would have told AEG Live’s lawyers. Green said when that’s happened in other cases, the lawyers haven’t used him as an expert witness. “I look at opinions like I would a medical diagnosis,” Green said. He said new info sometimes changes his opinions. (AP)


    Stebbins Bina asked Green about some of the conflict of interest definitions that Bloss asked about. Green said about one document that it was guidance for physicians only, not for third parties or patients. “Patients must be informed of financial incentives that could impact the level of care they receive,” one of the documents read. Green said Jackson was aware of incentives to Murray. “Not only was Michael Jackson informed of the financial incentives, he created them.” (AP) Bina asked about a doc shown on Friday about conflict of interest. Dr. Green said the document is a guidance for physicians on what to do. Bina asked about the article: "Patients must be informed of financial incentives that could impact the level or type of care they receive." Dr Green said the statement further proves his opinion. "Not only was MJ the patient informed of financial incentive, he created it as well" The expert said MJ requested Dr. Murray and suggested the payment of $150,000 a month. (ABC7)


    Stebbins Bina asked Green about emails he reviewed in the case expressing concerns about Jackson’s health and whether they changed his opinions in the case. Green said they didn’t, because they didn’t indicate AEG was directing Michael Jackson’s care. Green said his interpretation of the the emails from AEG executives was that they were showing concern about Jackson’s health. (AP) Dr. Green said email Phillips wrote showed they were very concerned about MJ's health, proved his opinion that parties shared same interest. The expert said the fact that Dr. Murray told Ortega to "stay in your lane" proves the doctor was independent. (ABC7)


    Dr. Green testified that, as a competent adult, you can't make anyone go see a doctor. Dr. Green said Dr. Klein saw MJ on June 22. He reviewed the medical records. He said Dr. Klein had seen MJ about 30 times between March and June and in no case he mentioned psychological problems. Dr. Green: The emails I reviewed really showed concern on behalf of AEG and I did not see anything AEG was directing the type of care. (ABC7)


    Dr Green said he reviewed testimony Murray was off on Sundays. Apr 19 when MJ asked Lee to find a doctor to give him Propofol was Sunday. (ABC7)


    Stebbins Bina wrapped up, and Bloss was able to ask a few concluding questions before court adjourned for the day. (AP)



    Jackson recross


    In re-cross, Bloss asked if $150,000 a month is large incentive, is it not? Dr. Green: In general, yes. "That's more than I make at Pepperdine as the team's physician," Dr. Green said. "By a lot." But he pointed out it's not his only job. (ABC7)


    Bloss asked whether Green had any information about what Phillips and Murray discussed on their June 20, 2009 phone call. He didn’t. Green said he didn’t know whether they discussed drug use, medical treatment or any other topics. He only knew what Phillips testified about. (AP)



    Bloss pointed out that when Dr. Murray told Ortega to "stay in your lane" if Phillips said anything. He said no. (ABC7)



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    Next witness is Rhoma Young, HR specialist as AEG's expert.

  • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 73 – August 20 2013 – Summary


    No Jackson family members are in court today.


    The judge laid out a schedule on when certain motions will be argued in the next couple weeks. Katherine Jackson wants to amend her lawsuit. AEG Live is seeking a dismissal of the case, claiming the plaintiffs haven’t shown enough evidence to send the case to the jury. AEG’s motion won’t be heard until Sept. 5 so that all the lawyers who need to argue it can be present. (AP)




    Rhoma Young Testimony




    AEG Direct


    AEG called their next witness, Rhoma Young. She's a Human Resources consultant. (ABC7) She was questioned by AEG Live attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina. (AP)


    Young said she was asked to look at the practices and policies of AEG Live, their independent contractors and testimony to see if consistent (ABC7) She has testified in detail about the differences between an employee and an independent contractor. (AP)


    Young explained she's been in the business going on 40 years. She has her own consulting company in the Bay area. She has worked with Facebook, Microsoft, IBM, LinkedIn, Roche, UC Med Centers, private hospitals, Kaiser, Chevron. She also worked with small organizations with less than 100 employees. In the music industry, Young said she worked with the Symphony, Ballet and Opera in the Bay area. (ABC7) She has been a consultant for 30+ years. Young has consulted on HR issues with the U.S. government and large tech companies including Facebook, Microsoft and healthcare companies. (AP) Young described her extensive background in the business, the different places she has worked and education. (ABC7)


    Young said she looks at the whole policy and procedures, all documents and how the company operates. Young explained part of her job is to help the organization to develop a plan to perhaps be more consistent with the written word. (ABC7)


    Young reviewed an extensive list of documents in this case. She’s worked in this case close to 200 hours. Her hourly rate for research is $350 per hour and $450 and hour for testimony and deposition. Young said her bill is close to $70,000 as recent as yesterday. In court, she said she testified 95 times, or maybe more. She said she tried to testify half and half for plaintiffs and defendants and has refused work when the balance is off. “I’m not an advocate,” Young said. “Because I testify for both sides, I can’t contradict myself. My reputation is about being balanced.” (ABC7)


    She also does investigations and has helped companies hiring employees. Young said an employee is an individual hired by a company. General there’s a defined way to find the employees, the screen process, layers of screen to determine who’s more qualified and who is not. When you’re hired there’s a supervisor, job title, set of expectation, training, how they are paid, employee benefits, insurance, Young said (ABC7) Employees, Young told the jury, typically apply for jobs, have supervisors, are entitled to some benefits and have a pay range. (AP)


    Young explained there's are different levels of human resources. One aims for perfection and the basic, which includes reasonable practices. In the world of HR, there are certain basics that are covered in workshops, since there always is confusion. (ABC7)


    One is issue between exempt and non-exempt, independent contractor and employee, Young testified. (ABC7)


    Application process is the initial screening process of a potential employee, Young said, if person meets the basic qualification. Young said there could be several interviews and done by different ways, like by one person or group of individuals. (ABC7)


    Young explained independent contractors are usually sourced through different method and different way. The expert said you can get personal referral or look for professional organizations to find independent contractors. There’s no application. Young testify for independent contractors you talk about price, timing, scheduling, license and there’s contract prior to beginning of work. (ABC7) Independent contractors aren’t employees, Young said, and aren’t entitled to insurance or other benefits and don’t have a supervisor. Independent contractors also are typically referred to a job, and don’t get on-the-job training as an employee might, Young said. Young made a point of telling the jury that her definitions of employees and independent contractors aren't legal ones. (AP)


    In order to obtain a medical license, Young said the doctor submits to a fingerprint scan, which goes thru Department of Justice. They also go thru very thorough education background. The State of California does not check financial background of applicants to issue medical licenses, Young said. (ABC7)


    Stebbins Bina showed Young a chart that Shawn Trell and plaintiff’s expert Jean Seawright testified about related to AEG Live’s practices. The chart spelled out in bullet points the company’s practices for checking out employees versus independent contractors. Young said the chart was consistent with HR-established practices for checking out employees and independent contractors. she also described appropriate background check policies. She said financial checks are expected for people working in financial roles with a company, but not necessarily for other workers. Other licenses (driving, medical) would be verified. (AP)


    Bina showed chart of AEG Process to Check Out People. (ABC7)


    Employees:
    - Job posted
    - Interview and resume
    - Verify employability
    – Check reference and work history
    – Criminal background check is warranted
    – Credit check if hired for financial position
    – Obligation based on employment relationship


    Independent Contractors:
    – Previous Working Relationship with AEG Live or Known to the Artist or Known in the Industry
    – Required licenses or permits
    – Fully insured
    – Indemnification provision
    – Obligations laid out in contract


    Employees have deductions and benefits, such as taxes, insurance, unemployment insurance, disability insurance, etc, Young explained. There’s no payroll taxes deducted from pay of independent contractors, the expert said. (ABC7)



    “An employee is brought in with the expectation the person will be with the company for a while,” Young said. Thus the training is different. Independent contractor is supposed to have the expertise right now, she explained. For employee, there’s job description and a set of responsibility very defined. They are usually going to have an employee handbook she said. Handbook details the expectations from the company and what employee can expect from employer, the expert explained. Independent contractors’ duty are worked out in advance and generally with a contract. Young: Generally in my opinion, independent contractors supply their own: their insurance, equipment, etc. They are normally self-contained. (ABC7)


    Young said there’s nothing inconsistent in the way AEG check people out with what’s used in the business. (ABC7)


    Young said in looking at the content of Dr. Murray’s contract, she said it’s consistent with an independent contractor agreement. “That agreement signed by Dr. Murray did contain things I usually would encounter in independent contractor agreements,” Young opined. (ABC7)


    Young: This is little bit of different 3-way agreement. This is AEG acting on behalf, helping MJ getting the doctor he wanted to go on tour. Bina asked who she understood asked for Dr. Murray to be hired. “Michael Jackson,” she responded. Young: My understanding is AEG was to advance funds for other personal staff on behalf of MJ at his request ultimately to be paid back by MJ. “My understanding these choices were being made by MJ. The children chose Kai Chase, but the choices were ultimately MJ’s,” Young testified. (ABC7)


    From an HR point of view, background checks could be part of both, but the way of which they are done are different, Young said. The gathering of initial information includes everything you do to find out about the person or organization you’re thinking of bringing on. For employee, Young said the check would include application, talk to prior employers, check driver’s license. Depending on the type of job, there should be a determination on whether a background check is needed or not, Young said. (ABC7)


    “For independent contractors, in my opinion, you don’t do background check or criminal check,” Young said. “You have a different set of knowledge, referrals,” she said. You may ask them to provide necessary licenses, their own insurances. She said it may all be included in the agreement. (ABC7)


    In an interview, the questions have to be job-related, Young said. Bina: Can you ask about how many children someone has? Young: No! Bina: Can you ask if a person anticipates to get to work on time? Young: You can say ‘the job is schedule to be performed between 8-5. Is that going to present a problem? Young said the rules are in place because you can have privacy issues, you can be asking inappropriate question not fair and equitable. (ABC7)


    Young said AEG does basic checks for employees, such as is the person eligible to work, do they have driver’s license if needed for the job. She said they also do credit checks for people who have fiscal and fiduciary duties and criminal background check on some specific employees. (ABC7)


    Young said that background check is much less frequently done for independent contractors than it is for employees. Young said many licenses go thru detailed background check. There’s also a possibility to do a check during the interview, if needed. She explained licenses check skills, experience. Professionals are to adhere to standards of expected performance from the issuer of license. Independent contractors give you different kinds of assurances when they are self-insured, Young explained. (ABC7)


    Bina: Do you agree or disagree that a credit check was job related for MJ’s physician? Young: I absolutely do not agree. Young: The process for someone to get a medical license is fairly thorough. Secondly, I have worked in health care w/ all different settings. “As fair as I know, they do not do credit checks,” Young said. She checked places hiring, saw no reference as credit check as a requirement. “It’s not common, it’s not frequent, in fact it’s very rare,” Young testified about credit check in the healthcare industry. (ABC7)



    Plaintiffs’ HR expert Jean Seawright testified earlier she relied on a study that 3% of healthcare companies did credit checks of employees. Young said 97% of healthcare company did not conduct any credit check. And that included more than just physicians, she said. Young: I helped organizations conduct recruiting, approximately 280, 300 times. Young has done only one credit check for a CFO. Young said the person was going to be making decisions of the financial and fiscal health of the organization. “It’s more of a judgment issue, how they dealt with, for the health of the organization,” Young explained. “In the professional experience I had, it is not common to do credit checks on physicians,” Young opined. (ABC7)



    She disagrees that Dr. Murray’s job was high risk or sensitive. High risk is when a person performing the work has more likelihood of fatality or injury to the worker, Young explained. Bina: Is there anything here that you considered Dr. Murray’s job high risk and sensitive? Young: No, I do not. (ABC7)


    Young: There were multiple occasions Ms. Seawright seemed to have ignored basic HR standards. Young: When she said there’s no difference between independent contractor and employees, for example. “How she described job relatedness, it was totally at odds from what I’d have expected from a seasoned HR professional,” Young opined. (ABC7)


    Bina finished her direct examination.




    Jackson cross



    Jacksons’ attorney, Brian Panish, did cross examination. (ABC7)


    Young said she started tracking cases she’s testified about 15 years ago. She had been testifying about 20 years, 5 years were not tracked. Young came to LA Friday evening. She met with the attorneys Saturday, Sunday and Monday, lunch today. “I don’t bill until I get in this chair,” Young said. She bills different rate when sitting around, which is at $350/hour rate. “It’s true I’m a full-time HR consultant,” Young said, adding she also has another business. Young has an antique business and jewelry design. She works 30-50 hours in HR per week, which she considers full time. (ABC7)


    Panish: Do you know what a CMC certification is? Young: Yes P: And that’s something you don’t have? Y: Correct . Panish asked if she has worked with concert promoters. She said no. Panish: Ma’am, you don’t specialize in the music business? Young: No. (ABC7)


    Young worked at General Motors. There were labor issues and Young represented the company. Panish: During that time, GM was laying off tens of thousands of jobs? Young: At the end of my time there, yes. (ABC7)


    Panish asked if she has ever seen a 3-way party involving a doctor, patient and someone else. “I’ve worked with some clinics and going thru personnel files I saw some 3-way agreements,” Young said. There were some independent contractor situation and 3 party agreements, she explained. This was over 10 years ago. Panish: And the agreement said the doctor took directions from someone else other than the patient? Young: I didn’t read the agreements. (ABC7)


    Young said she has not seen a contract between a concert promoter, doctor and patient. Panish: You’re not familiar with physicians traveling with musicians on tour? Young: Only what I read in this case. She said she’s familiar with a doctor going on “This Is It” tour and that a doctor was present in an earlier MJ tour. Panish: You never dealt with a producer/promoter trying to hire a doctor for an artist? Young: That’s correct. Young said she’s never hired a physician on behalf of anyone. She has helped in the process but was not the person to have the last say. (ABC7)


    Young has not looked at Nevada’s medical license requirements prior to issuing a medical license. There was one child support situation that was late, Young said. She read in the case that Dr. Murray has 6 or 7 children. (ABC7)


    Panish: You’re not disputing AEG could’ve made Dr. Murray sign a authorization for background check, are you? Young: No. Panish: Did AEG have a written policy of what they had to do to supervise an independent contractor? Young: No. Panish: Is there a written policy regarding hiring and retaining independent contractors? Young said that as far as she knew, AEG has a template of draft contract. Young explained there’s a draft, in writing, of template for dealing with independent contractors. She said she could consider that a policy. Panish showed the independent contractor template and what Young said it would be a policy and procedure. Panish: Does it say what they should check out before the employment? Young: No P: Does it say check references, prior employment? Y: No. Panish: It’s important to have clear policies and procedures to hire independent contractor in order for everyone to follow the same rules? Young said it helps. “My understanding is that all went thru legal,” she added. Panish asked what document applies for written policy/procedure for AEG Live hiring/retaining/engaging an independent contractor. “To my knowledge there isn’t one,” Young said. “As far as I know, there are no criteria in writing before hiring an independent contractor.” “I look for effectiveness not correctness when doing my audits,” Young said. Young explained she was not asked to to assess if AEG Live appropriately supervised Dr. Conrad Murray. (ABC7)


    Panish asked what AEG Live did to check Dr. Murray’s license. Young said Kathy Jorrie searched the doctor’s medical license. Panish pointed out that insurance was never provided to AEG. “And the agreement was never completed,” Young responded. (ABC7)


    Panish: Finding someone is different from checking them out, isn’t it? Young: Yes. You may be doing both things at the same time. Panish: In your opinion, AEG didn’t have to do anything? Young: In terms of background check and supervising Dr. Murray, no. (ABC7)


    Young said she does not consider physician’s job dangerous. She said industry considers the danger to the person doing the job not 3rd party. Panish asked if one example of dangerous profession is crocodile’s keeper, wild animal holders. She said yes. “Crocodiles are dangerous creatures,” Young testified. “Have you trained a crocodile before?” Panish asked. “Not recently,” she responded. And Young took a jab at Panish: “I’ve been cross examined by one.” Everyone started laughing. (ABC7)


    Young is donating the trial testimony money to the American Cancer Society. Panish said if he keeps her tomorrow there will be more money to ACS. Defense attorney objected. Everyone laughed again. (ABC7)


    Frasco Profiles does background check for AEG. Panish showed provision that says “Disclosure and Authorization to Conduct Background Check”. Panish: In 2009, AEG Live had the ability to do background check on a person if they wanted to? Young: Yes. Panish: Frasco charges between $40-$125 for background checK? Young said she based her opinion on a competitor of Frasco. The answer is yes. Young is familiar with credit check in general. She doesn’t do them herself. (ABC7)


    Panish: Did you see any evidence in this case that AEG Live did a background check on Dr. Murray? Young said Jorrie checked Dr. Murray’s medical license, whether it was current and if there had been any complaints against him. (ABC7)


    Panish asked Young about Det. Martinez’ assertion that Dr. Murray was in desperate financial troubles. “I learned that he was late in the mortgage payments, I don’t know how far it was in the foreclosure process,” she said. Young said in her deposition that she has no idea how Randy Phillips determined Dr. Murray was extremely successful. (ABC7)


    Young explained she’s familiar w/ State of California’s criteria to issue licenses to physician, but she’s not an expert in physician hiring. (ABC7)


    Panish asked if 10 mins is thorough, detailed background check on someone. Young said it could be, even Seawright said it only takes 5 mins. (ABC7)



    AEG Redirect


    In re-direct, Bina showed “Disclosure and Authorization to Conduct Background Check.” It says “Credit history may be requested, but only where such information is substantially related to the duties and responsibilities of the position to which you’re applying.” (ABC7)


    Young said she thinks the salary discussion alone proves that’s what MJ wanted at the time. (ABC7)



    Jackson recross



    In re-cross, Young said there was an agreement that called for the engagement of Dr. Murray. Panish: If AEG came to you in 2009 and asked if they should hire a doctor on behalf of 3rd party, you would’ve said no? Young: I don’t know. “No, there’s not a chance I’d advise that,” Young said in a deposition, laughing out loud. (ABC7)



    AEG redirect


    Bina asked if the reason she said that was because she’s not a lawyer. She said yes, she doesn’t advise on contracts. (ABC7)


    Young is excused.



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    AEG Live plans to play three video depositions tomorrow, Jeffrey Adams, Dr. David Adams and Dr. Stephen Gordon.

  • ..:hm..dass die zusammengelebt haben... höre ich zum ersten Mal...


    http://www.latimes.com/local/l…-20130821,0,4106940.story


    Aussage per Video von Jeffrey Adams:


    Seine Rolle als MJs Angestellter sei ein wenig unklar, er habe als Security für ihn gearbeitet bei Veranstaltungen, aber auch das Personal organisiert.
    Ungefähr im Februar 2007 habe einer der Security-Angestellten ihn angerufen, MJs Kinder seien krank, und habe ihn gefragt, ob sein Arzt - Conrad Murray, der sowohl Adams als auch dessen Vater behandelte - vertrauenswürdig sei. Adams habe Murray daraufhin angerufen und ihn um den "großen Gefallen" gebeten, jemand Prominenten aufzusuchen und zu behandeln.


    Gleich nachdem er die Nachrichten vom 25.06.09 gehört habe, habe Adams Murray angerufen, weil dieser sich so gut um seinen Vater gekümmert hatte, und habe Murray gefragt, ob er ihn brauche. Er sei dann sofort zu ihm gereist und habe mit ihm gelebt bis zur Verurteilung, als Security gedient und sei mit ihm nach Philadelphia, Las Vegas, Houston, San Diego, Boston und Miami gereist. In Las Vegas und Houston habe Murray Patienten behandelt.
    Murray habe mit ihm nie die Details von Jacksons Tod besprochen.


    Und von Twitter:


    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
    Adams went everywhere with Dr. Murray from the day after MJ's death to Murray's criminal conviction.
    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts
    We lived together, we had an apartment together, we did everything together," Adams said.
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    Adams sagt, sie hätten zusammengelebt, zusammen ein Apartment gehabt, alles zusammen gemacht. Adams sei mit Murray überall hin gegangen, vom Tag nach MJs Tod bis zu Murrays Verurteilung.


    EDIT:


    (von Ivy, mjjc)
    08/29/2013 at 01:30 pm in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
    Oral Argument(ON PLTFS MTN TO AMEND)


    09/05/2013 at 10:30 am in department 28 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
    Oral Argument(ON MTN FOR NON SUIT)


    Anhörung zum Antrag der Jacksons, einen Anklagepunkt wieder hinzuzufügen, am 29.8.
    Anhörung zum Antrag von AEG, die Klage abzuweisen, am 5.9.

  • naja, murray hatte security dabei, wenn man bilder sah (ausflug mit seinen kindern, ihr erinnert euch..?)
    und kann gut sein, dass adams dabei war,
    aber einem nicht auffiel.
    schliesslich hat man ja nur auf diese ratte geschaut, nicht auf eventuelle begleiter.
    murray bekam ja - angeblich - ne reihe morddrohungen,
    insofern schon möglich, dass adams dann sehr nah an ihm dran blieb (zum schutz),
    wenn er ihr von früherer zeit für vertrauenswürdig hielt und gute erfahrungen mit murray hatte.
    schei**e nur, dass genau dieses zusammenbringen von murray und mike
    das todesurteil für michael bedeutete...

  • ..ebenfalls gestern Video-Depo mit Dr. Gordon, plast. Chirurg...
    .. von unten nach oben lesen:



    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 52s
    “There was nothing usual or customary about what he was doing, at all,” Gordon said of the 2007 visit. He never heard from Jackson again.
    "Es gab nichts gewöhnliches oder übliches über das, was er tat,«, sagte Gordon über den 2007-Besuch. Er hörte nie wieder von Jackson.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 1m
    Gordon said he didn’t give Jackson any pain medication after that visit. His impression was Murray was taking care of MJ’s needs, he said.
    Gordon sagte, er gab Jackson keine Schmerzmittel nach diesem Besuch. Sein Eindruck war Murray kümmerte sich um MJs Bedürfnisse, sagte er.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    Murray had driving Jackson to the office and sat through the procedure. Jackson received a cosmetic injection, but didn’t get propofol.
    Murray hat Jackson in die Praxis gefahren und setzte sich während der Behandlung. Jackson erhielt eine kosmetische Injektion, aber bekam nicht Propofol.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    He said Jackson acted like he hadn’t been there before, and he had never had a patient bring their own doctor to a visit.
    Er sagt Jackson verhielt sich als wäre er nicht zuvor schon dagewesen und er hatte nie einen Patienten der einen Arzt zum Arztbesuch mitbrachte.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    Murray presented himself and Jackson’s doctor and “spokesperson to some extent,” Gordon said. Gordon found the visit odd.
    Murray präsentierte sich als Jacksons Arzt und "Sprecher zu einem gewissen Grad" sagt Grodon. Gordon fand den Besuch seltsam.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    He didn’t see the singer again for another four years. The next time he came to the office, Conrad Murray was with him.
    Er sah den Sänger nicht für 4 Jahre. Das nächste Mal als er kam war Conrad Murray mit ihm.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    “I got the impression that he had favors like this done for him before,” Gordon said of Jackson’s request for Demerol.
    "Ich bekam den Eindruck, dass er Gefallen wie diese für ihn gemacht wurden zuvor" sagt Gordon über Jacksons Anfrage nach Demorol.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 2m
    Gordon said that a high dose and he refused to give it to Jackson. The singer didn’t argue, but did say he could handle it.
    Gordon sagt, dass ist eine hohe Dosis und er verweigerte sie Jackson zu geben. Der Sänger stritt nicht, aber sagte er könne damit umgehen.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    Gordon said he wasn’t going to give it to Jackson, but asked him how much he wanted. 300mg the singer replied.
    Grodon sagt er würde es Jackson nicht geben, aber fragte ihn wie viel er wolle.
    Der Sänger antwortete 300mg.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    The doctor said as Jackson was leaving, he asked for a shot of Demerol “for the road.” Gordon said he was surprised by the request.
    Der Arzt sagt als Jackson ging fragte er nach einem Schuß Demorol für die Fahrt.
    Gordon sagt, dass er über die Anfrage überrascht war.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    Gordon removed scar tissue, but said he didn’t find anything inorganic in Jackson’s abdomen. MJ had a wound, but it had healed.
    Gordon entfernte das Narbengewebe, aber sagte er könne nichts anorganisches in Jacksons Bauch finden. MJ hat eine Wunde, aber sie war verheilt.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    In July 2003, Jackson returned for another procedure. This time he asked Gordon to cut a “foreign body” out of his abdomen.
    Im July 2003 kam Jackson für eine andere Behandlung. Diesmal fragte er Gordon einen Fremdkörper vom Bauch zu entfernen.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    “Most people really don’t relate to it like that,” Gordon said. He noted he just overheard the conversation with the anesthesiologist.
    Die meisten Leute bezeichnen es so nicht sagt Gordon. Er sagt er hat nur die Unterhaltung mit dem Narkotiseur überhört.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
    The doctor also said Jackson appeared more familiar with anesthesia than other patients, and referred to propofol as “milk.”
    Der Arzt sagt auch, dass Jackson mehr familiar mit Betäubungsmittel war als andere Patienten und bezog sich auf dieses als Milch.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    Gordon testified that he had Trouble getting paid for the October procedures. He described Jackson as a “phantom” and difficult to reach.
    Gordon sagt er hatte Schwierigkeiten für die Oktober-Behandlung bezahtl zu werden. Er beschreibt Jackson als Phantom, dass schwer erreichbar war.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    While Gordon’s records were unclear, the attorneys agreed to read a note to the jury that a procedure did happen on Oct. 2, 2002.
    Während Gordons Aufzeichnungen unklar waren stimmten die Anwälte überein eine Notiz an die Jury zu lesen, dass eine Behandlung am 2. Okt. 2002 stattfand.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    “I knew I’d have a little Trouble explaining this to you,” Gordon told AEG Live defense lawyer Marvin Putnam on the video.
    "Ich weiß ich habe ein wenig Schwierigkeiten dies zu erklären" sagt Gorden AEG-Anwalt Putnam im Video.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    Gordon said it’s possible the procedure was a touch-up from the previous one, or the anesthesiology chart was for another patient.
    Gordon sagt es ist möglich, dass die Behandlung mit der vorherigen verbunden war oder die Narkose-Aufzeichnung war für einen anderen Patient.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    The anesthesiologist had notes that a 45-minute procedure was done, but the doctor doesn’t remember what happened.
    Der Arzt hat Aufzeichnungen von einer 45-Minuten-Behandlung, aber der Arzt erinnert sich nicht was gemacht wurde.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 4m
    Gordon’s medical records indicated Jackson returned two days later, but the doctor didn’t have any notes of what was done.
    Gordons Akten zeigen das Jackson 2 Tage später wieder kan, aber der Arzt hat keine Aufzeichung was gemacht wurde.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 41m
    It was a short procedure _ about 10 minutes and Gordon said it wasn't a notable visit and nothing out of the ordinary happened.
    Es war eine kurze Behandulung -10 Minuten und Gordon sagt es war keine bemerkenswerter Besuch und nichts ungewöhnliches passierte.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 46m
    Gordon said having a patient get anesthesia for those types of procedures wasn't typical.
    Gordon sagt er hatte Patienten, die Narkose dafür bekamen, ist aber nicht typ. für die Beahndlung.
    "He expressed a significant needle phobia."
    "Er drückte signifakante Phobie für Nadeln aus"
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 47m
    The injections were both in Jackson's face, some near his nose and he got Botox on at least one of his lower eyelids.
    Die Injektionen waren beide in Jacksons Gesicht, einige nahe der Nase und er bekam Botox unter seinen unteren Eiliedern.
    He got anesthesia.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 48m
    Jackson went to his office on Oct. 2, 2002 for the first procedure, which was done after hours. MJ got some collagen injections.
    Jackson kam zur Praxis am 2. Okt. 2002 für seine 1. Behandlung, die nach Stunden erledigt war. MJ bekam Collagen-Injektionen.


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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 49m
    "It was a very pleasant sort of flattering experience," Gordon said.
    The doctor said Jackson told him he really wanted to see him.
    "Es war eine sehr angenehme schmeichelnde Erfahrung" sagt Gordon
    Der Arzt sagt Jackson sagte ihm, dass er ihn wirklich sehen will
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 51m
    Gordon said he initially thought it was someone messing with him, but Jackson gave him a callback number and he was convinced.
    Gordon sagt er dachte zunächst jemand scherzt mit ihm, aber Jackson gab ihm eine Rückrufnummer und er war überzeugt.
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 51m
    Gordon never saw Jackson socially. He met the singer after receiving a call directly from him, seeking an appointment.
    Gordon sah Jackson nie privat. Er traf ihn nachdem er einen direkten Anruf wegen einem Termin erhielt
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    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 51m
    AEG next played the deposition of Las Vegas plastic surgeon Stephen Gordon. He performed procedures on Jackson in 2002, ’03 & ’07.
    AEG zeigt Video-Depo mit Stephen Gordon, plast. Chirurg. Er machte Behandlungen bei Jackson in 2002, 2003, 2007.