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  • My radio on Michael Jackson

    I present to you my webradio entirely dedicated to Michael Jackson : Michael Jackson Radio


    Founded in October 2008 on the website Radionomy.com, it broadcasts all the songs and official versions of Michael Jackson, The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons 24/7 : album versions, single versions, extended versions, remixes, instrumentals, acapellas, live versions, demos, unreleased versions, video versions, duets & collaborations etc.


    Online since October 31, 2008, it is the very first radio station dedicated to Michael Jackson created on Radionomy.


    The radio station now counts more than 1,700 files !



    To listen to the radio, several ways are possible :


    • http://www.radionomy.com/michael-jackson-radio


    • http://listen.radionomy.com/michael-jackson-radio.m3u


    • http://michael-jackson-radio.playtheradio.com


    • On iTunes : Radio > Top40 / Pop > Michael Jackson Radio


    • iOS application (iPhone / iPod / iPad) of Radionomy : http://itunes.apple.com/app/radionomy/id465042448


    • Android application of Radionomy : https://play.google.com/store/…?id=com.tapptic.radionomy


    • iOS and Android application of Liveradio



    Michael Jackson Radio is also available on social networks :


    http://www.facebook.com/Michael.Jackson.Radio


    http://twitter.com/MJacksonRadio



    Come and invite all your friends !


    Enjoy your listening !

  • Versionen und andere Raritäten (Edits, Remixe, LP)


    http://mjofficialversions.blogspot.fr/2012/01/thriller.html


    ;)

  • Complete list of the official versions of songs by Michael Jackson, The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons

    Zitat von Korgnex

    I can't find "Shout" in that list.


    I hope "Dangerous Incorporated" (cam) doesn't provide you with wrong info.


    Mjrico had bought the Australian promo CD of "Cry" and told us that there was no different version on this CD like DI claimed. So I didn't list "Shout".


    Zitat von Korgnex


    I am surprised that you're listening the Cascio tracks nonetheless. But you're missing 9 songs.
    The full Monster remix goes 7:33 only, the leaked one has been messed with. The leaked versions of KYHU and Monster aren't "original versions", they are just other mixes.
    Also: No snippets of any "rough demos" - a lie invented and spread by the criminal Birchey - have ever surfaced. The other songs and versions are all WIPs (Work In Progress). They also make it clear that a) there are no "snorts" on the songs (another stupid and wrong assumption) but - as I have always said - production artefacts (best examples: KYHU and BN) and b) that people have absolutely no idea when James Porte is singing. "TPIMaster" e.g. has an infamous comparison clip (I think it's called "Yogurt") where he's infact comparing James Porte only with Jason Malachi. He's using a chorus section from "Stay" and the only 2 ad-libs from MJ have been suppressed. He doesn't even realize this. A lot of the doubters are completely unable to recognize James Porte and are mistaking his many vocals (those songs belong to that dude mainly) for Jason Malachi.


    Actually, it's more difficult to list Cascio tracks because we don't have many informations about them. :(


    The other 9 songs have different versions and/or remixes except these so-called "demos" (that I forgot lol) ?


    I though that the leaked Jody Den Broeder & Chris Cox Club Remix of "Monster" was the real one ! Oo Thanks for the information :)


    I will change the name for the different mixes of KYHU and Monster.


    Thank you for the corrections. :top

  • Complete list of the official versions of songs by Michael Jackson, The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons

    On May 2010, I posted a question on MJJCommunity forum, trying to find out if a list of all of the official versions of Michael Jackson's songs existed. I was looking for a complete list. Few people were interested by this topic and there didn't exist a real complete list, so I decided to create one. I also decided to create complete lists of the official versions of Jackson 5 and Jacksons' songs.



    The Problem is, there are errors and duplicates on the list I found on the internet, so my purpose was to make a list as complete and error free as possible. I began to group different lists that I found on websites such as Bubblesland, MJFC, MJJC (MJ Tempest's), MJDatabank and informations found on MJFrance. Then I highlighted versions according to the site where they were found. For example, when a version came from Bubblesland, I highlighted it with Yellow. So when a version was found on several lists, I highlighted it in several colours. On the other side, when the version had only one highlighted colour, that maybe meant it was either a mistake or a duplicate.



    Then I looked all of the Discogs for checking each version. I have also listed all record releases for each version. This step took me a long time but I have done that just for Michael's solo songs list. I will not publish the full version of this list containing all discs. I simplified the list, summarizing the main disc. I listed all the records I've found, only when it was necessary for some versions. Then I also checked each release on "Michaeljacksondiscography.fr" web site.



    Later, I also scanned several other sites, like Jackson5abc, (especially for Jackson 5 songs), MJstrangersite, Michaeljacksoncatalog, MJJVault, Jacksonstreet.nl, MJJCollectors.com, Korgnex's list, Steve Hoffman Forums, Top40musiconcd, among others.



    For the last step, I used the book "Michael Jackson - For The Record" (2nd Edition) to record all relevant information and check the official versions that are listed. I did the same thing for making Jackson 5 and The Jacksons' lists.



    I also added my knowledge and personal discoveries.



    After collecting all those informations, I grouped them and worked on lists, trying to confirm the existence and authenticity of the versions, to avoid any errors or duplicates. I did not simply copy and paste lists that I found on the Internet. I did thorough research. I put a cross by each version that I was sure (or I believe it could be) about, for finding the versions for which I had no information or I was missing informations. This allowed me to then list all the questions I would have to ask.



    This is the final step: Ask around various people, to hopefully find out informations that are missing from my lists. So I sent questions to some fans that I know to have much knowledge about Michael's music, but I also sent many private messages to member of Discogs. This final step was very long winded and it took a long just to find the littlest of information. For example, to know what were the correct durations of the remixes for "Is It Scary". Between the countless misprints on the discs and the fakes circulating on the internet, it was not so obvious.



    Once obtained the latest information, my lists were complete. It has taken me 2 years. It's been hours and hours ! I can't even estimate the number of hours that I spent so much time on it. Obviously I have not spent 24h/24 on it, I did that when I had time.



    Here are the sites I have visited to build my lists:


    Billiejean.be
    Bubblesland
    Discogs
    Encyclopediejacksonniene
    Jackson Village
    Jackson5abc (Site & Forum)
    Jacksonstreet.nl
    Korgnex's list (Unreleased Tracks / Non-Album-Tracks / Later-Released-Tracks)
    Michael Jackson - For The Record (2nd Edition)
    Michaeljacksoncatalog.com
    MichaelJacksonDiscography
    MJ Data Bank
    MJ Stranger Site
    MJ Street
    MJCollectorland
    MJFC
    MJFrance
    MJJCollection.unblog.fr
    MJJCollectors
    MJJCommunity Forum
    MJJVault
    Steve Hoffman Forums
    Top 40 Music On CD
    Wikipedia



    And so many sites that I found during my searches.



    I thank everyone who helped me directly or indirectly by the information they gave, by their websites and/or their posts on sites and forums, as well as their responses to my questions :



    Aaronk, Bboy87, BottleOfSmoke, Brian W., Bubbles / Tdrcau, Chris Cadman, Dancing_fool, Dangerous Incorporated, Dave Seaman, DefMixFan, Disco-funk, DJGreek, DJMichaelAngelo, Forever_Young_1981, Franeck, Frekrueg, Funkylady, Gareth Cooke, Grant / The Hits Man, Jeff H., JohnC, JonathanRhodes, Korgnex, MaestroOne, MaJic, Marko, Michackson, MJ Tempest, MJBenito, Mjchris, Mjdestiny, MJJTradeFan, MJRemixed, Mjrico, Naz_mijac, Nick2341, Portishead, Richard Lecocq, RICKJANE, Roger Sanchez, Roll, Roscoe, Sebastien Caron, Slayd5000, Sunset And The Dawn, Szarkad, Tony Moran, Tristan, Waldo / JTJMM, Yiannis Elia, Yoann, Zoub52.



    Thank you to everyone who responded on Discogs to my questions and everyone I may be forgetting.



    Special thanks to:


    DefMixFan, Grant / The Hits Man, Korgnex, Mjdestiny, Naz_mijac, Nick2341 and Waldo / JTJMM.


    Thank you to Naz_mijac for his list of Motown alternate mixes which helped me.




    I've grouped my work on a blog specially created for this purpose. The address is: http://mjofficialversions.blogspot.fr



    The summarized and simplified lists are in the tabs at the top, and the details of each version are in posts. We can access each song directly via the right pane.



    I tried (when I could) to list the correct durations of the songs. That is to say, the duration of the music only. The times do not include the silences at the beginning and end of a track.



    Feel free to comment here or on blog, if you have any questions, comments, suggestions or anything else! The purpose is to have a list as complete and accurate as possible !



    - Summarized and simplified list : Michael Jackson


    - Summarized and simplified list : The Jackson 5


    - Summarized and simplified list : The Jacksons

  • Versionen und andere Raritäten (Edits, Remixe, LP)


    Yes, It's true. I had checked other CDs of Smooth Criminal and all contain the same "Annie Mix" as the one which is on the Japanese CD Maxi-Single.


    On this US promo CD Maxi-Single, the "Extended Dance Mix" and "Extended Dance Mix Radio Edit" are also different from the other ones.

  • Unreleased Tracks & Co. / Der Werk-Katalog [zukünftiger Inhalt]

    Thank you very much for all these answers ! :) :top



    (My replies are in blue)



    7) Links don't work for me. But apart from an earlier mix of the final version nothing has been leaked.


    I ask my question again with download links :) :


    Is this version the original uncut version of "Who Is It" : http://www.mediafire.com/?b44es5es16ctklq ?


    What is this version : http://www.mediafire.com/?kji52h19925qmzd ? An alternate mix of the original uncut version ?




    8a) Yes. http://www.discogs.com/Michael…ime-Around/release/547780


    The "Maurice's Hip Hop Around Mix" has no drop and has the rap.


    The "Maurice's Hip Hop Around Mix w/o Rap" has no proper drop and no rap.


    On this promo 12", there is no version with drop and without rap




    8b) Yes. Here e.g.:
    http://www.discogs.com/Michael…me-Around/release/3205293
    http://www.discogs.com/Michael…ime-Around/release/916884
    http://www.discogs.com/Michael…Earth-Song/release/989034


    Ah ok ! "David Mitson Clean Album Mix" and "David Mitson Clean Edit" are the same !




    8c) If they are indeed from the multi-tracks of the 7'' and 12'' respectively remix versions, then they are. What's your source? Link?


    Here : http://www.mjjcommunity.com/fo…11&viewfull=1#post3281911




    10d) Yes. http://www.discogs.com/Michael…dio-Mixes/release/1982732


    I have a rip of this promo CD and I don't hear any mute drop.




    11) Yes, it does really exist. It's from some internal Whitfield acetate (3rd track on Disc 1) -->


    But, these Whitfield CDs are fake, no ? Oo




    17) Not all of them are official but they all exist and are authentic as far as I know.


    Could you tell me which ones are official ? :)




    19) I don't understand your question.


    I have the long versions of these remixes :


    - Blood On The Dance Floor (TM's Switchblade Edit) (4:10)
    - Blood On The Dance Floor (Refugee Camp Edit) (4:10)
    - Blood On The Dance Floor (TM's Switchblade Mix) (9:52)


    I wonder if they are real or not.


    What I know is that they are not on this CD. On this CD, durations are false. It's just misprints.

  • Unreleased Tracks & Co. / Der Werk-Katalog [zukünftiger Inhalt]

    I have questions about the music of Michael. Korgnex said me to write them here :)


    Actually, I made a list of all the official versions of Michael's songs (Epic era). Now, I finished but there are some things I don't know. This would allow me to finish my list. I compiled ALL my questions.


    Here is my questions :





    1)     Do you know these 2 versions of "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" here :
    http://www.discogs.com/Michael…nseguirlo/release/2073549 and here http://www.discogs.com/Michael…ff-The-Wa/release/2087200 ??


    If yes, how are these versions ? The durations are correct ?





    2) On this 12" http://www.discogs.com/Jacksons-Wait/release/433394, the Live version of "She's Out Of My Life" really lasts 3:45 like written ?





    3) I have seen in the book "For The Record" (2nd edition) that there is written "7" Edit With Intro" about the song "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough".


    It is on this promo 7" : http://www.discogs.com/Michael…et-Enough/release/1973699


    But, is it here as well : http://www.discogs.com/Michael…et-Enough/release/1828208 ? There is written "Short Version With Rap" so it's maybe the same version. There is written 3:55 so it's maybe a misprint...





    4) Is the Q-Tip Remix of "Rock With You" official ?





    5) Does the "Brothers In Rhythm Mix" of Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' the same as the "Brothers In Rhythm House Mix" ?


    On MJFC, there is written this about the cancelled 2003 Australian CD Maxi-Single :


    4. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Brothers In Rhythm Mix)
    5. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Brothers In Rhythm House Mix)


    But on MJStrangersite, there is written this :


    Brothers In Rhythm House Mix - 6.45
    Brothers In Rhythm Mix - 7.35


    And on Majical Jackson, there is written the same thing :


    Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Brothers In Rhythm House Mix] 6:45
    Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Brothers In Rhythm Mix] 7:35


    The Brothers In Rhythm House Mix released on Jam, Who Is It, Earth Song etc runs 7:35 not 6:45 ! The Brothers In Rhythm Mix really exist ? What is its duration ?





    6) On this UK 12", there is 2 remixes of "Smooth Criminal by Brothers In Rhythm : http://www.discogs.com/Various…s-Volume-2/release/759845


    Some fans say that they are official, but other fans say that they are not official !


    Are they official or not ?





    7) Is this version the original uncut version of "Who Is It" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hyZvrouqA ?


    What is this version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XTvZnDeRhg ? An alternate mix of the original uncut version ?





    8)


    a) In the book For The Record and on MJFC, the following remixes are listed :


    This Time Around (Maurice's Hip Hop Around Mix With Drop (Without Rap))
    This Time Around (Georgie's House N Around Edit)


    Are they really official ? I didn't see these remixes on any CD or vinyl !



    b) In For The Record, there is also this remix :


    This Time Around (David Mitson Clean Album Mix)


    Is it official ? If yes, Where is it released ?



    c) Finally, are these remixes official ? :


    This Time Around (Uno Clio 12" Backing Track)
    This Time Around (Uno Clio 12" Instrumental)
    This Time Around (Uno Clio 7" Backing Track)
    This Time Around (Uno Clio 7" Master Mix)





    9) About They Don’t Care About Us :


    a) In the old French magazine "Black & White" (issue #19), there is written this :


    Album version 4:45 / Album version - with noises 4:45 / Album version - with new lyrics / LP Edit 4:10 / LP Radio Edit - with "sew sew" and "kick kick" 4:10 / Single Version 4:43


    What is this "Album version - with new lyrics" ? The "LP Edit" or another version ?



    b) Is there really a version with these lyrics : "do me, sue me" and "kick me, strike me" ?


    This is what there is written on Wikipedia… but is it true or not ? If it’s true, where is this version released ?



    c) I saw on MJDatabank and in the issue #19 of B&W, that there is written this :


    "They Don’t Care About Us (Dallas Austin Main Mix w/o Bass)"


    Where is it released ? In the B&W, there is mentioned that it was only available on promo, but which one ?



    Here is a screenshot of the "Black & White" magazine #19 : http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/9351/sansrert.jpg





    10) About Stranger In Moscow :



    a) On MJDatabank, there is a remix of SIM I never saw anywhere : "Hani's Extended Club Hop Mix (R&B)"


    Does it really exist ? Where is it released ?



    b) On the Australian CD Maxi-Single of SIM, there is a remix called "Hani's Radio Edit" : http://www.discogs.com/Michael…In-Moscow/release/2405541


    Is it the same remix as the one called "Hani's Num Radio" released on UK & Europe CD Maxi-Singles ?



    c) Are these remixes the same ? :


    - "Tee's Freeze Mix - Club" & "Tee’s Freeze Mix"


    - "Tee's Mission Mix - Club" & "Tee’s Mission Mix"


    - "Tee's Bonus Beats Dub" & "Tee’s Bonus Beats"



    d) Does the "Charles Roane Full Mix - W/Mute Drop (R&B)" really exist ?





    11) In For The Record and on MJFC, this remix is listed :


    HIStory (MARK!’s Vocal Dub Mix)


    Does it really exist ? Where is it released ?





    12)


    a) In For The Record, the following remixes are listed as official remixes of "Ghosts" :


    Remix
    Mousse T’s Radio Edit


    But, Where are they released ? Do they really exist ? What is "Remix" ?



    b) In the list in this thread, there is written this :


    Ghosts (1994) (Michael Jackson, Teddy Riley)
    Michael Jackson
    Outtake of the album HISTORY - PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE - BOOK I (1995)
    Developed after Michael wrote Is It Scary, but wanted to just write another
    creepy theme. An Early Version leaked as it was used for the end credits
    of the eponymous mini-movie GHOSTS (1996) when a final version was
    not yet available. This version has a different bass and other sound effects.
    Recording has been completed in 1996 and the song eventually was chosen for
    the compilation BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR - HISTORY IN THE MIX (1997).


    * (5:13) "Blood On The Dance Floor - HIStory In The Mix"
    (Compilation, CD, 1997)
    * (Radio Edit, 3:50) "HIStory / Ghosts"
    (Single, CD, 1997)
    * (5:13, and Radio Edit - _:__) "Ghosts - Deluxe Collector Box Set"
    (Limited Movie Package, both CD, December 1997 Europe)


    (Early Version, 5:45) LEAKED


    This Early Version is the version of Ghosts used for the end credits of the 2nd version of the mini-movie Ghosts, the one released on VHS, VCD and LaserDisc, right ?


    But, in the end credits of the 1st version of the mini-movie Ghosts (the one not commercially released, but leaked on the Internet), the version of the song Ghosts is different from the version used in the end credits of the 2nd version of the mini-movie Ghosts.


    What is this version of the song Ghosts used in the 1st version of the mini-movie ? The demo ?





    13) The explicit version of the Track Masters Remix of "You Rock My World" (the one with the word "nigga") is official or not ? Where is it released ?





    14) On the Internet, there is a version of "2000 Watts" without the vocoder which circulate. Is it official or fan-made ?





    15) In For The Record, there is written this about "We Are Here To Change The World" :


    Studio mix released for the first time on Michael’s box-set, THE ULTIMATE
    COLLECTION, issued in November 2004.


    Official Versions :
    Movie Version
    Making Of Version
    George Lucas TV Special Version
    Studio Mix


    What is the George Lucas TV Special ?





    16) I tried to compile a list of the official versions of the Cascio songs :


    Breaking News


    Album Version (4:14)
    A Cappella (3:28)
    Instrumental (4:15)


    Keep Your Head Up


    Album Version (4:51)
    Original Version - With Earth Song Adlibs (5:09)


    Monster


    Album Version (5:06)
    Original Mix - Without 50 Cent (5:38)
    Jody Den Broeder & Chris Cox Radio Edit (3:47)
    Jody Den Broeder & Chris Cox Club Remix (7:30)
    Jody Den Broeder & Chris Cox Dub Mix (6:15)



    Is it correct ? Are there other official versions ?





    17) Are these remixes all official : http://mjklub.com/threads/1294…Remix-Sammler-Korgi-sucht ?


    If yes, What are the names of these remixes ? :


    Off The Wall
    • [E-Smoove Mixes]
    • [Maurice Joshua Mixes]





    18) About "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008" :


    a) Is this Johnny Vicious remix official : http://soundcloud.com/johnny-vicious/michael-jackson-vs-akon ?



    b) Does the German 12" of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008" with this tracklist exist ? :


    1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008 (Radio Edit) (3:48)
    2. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008 (Johnny Vicious Radio Mix) (3:36)
    3. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008 (Johnny Vicious Club Remix) (9:03)
    4. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008 (Johnny Vicious Warehouse Thrilla Dub) (7:23)





    19) These remixes of "Blood On The Dance Floor" are official or fan-made ? :


    - Blood On The Dance Floor (TM's Switchblade Edit - Long) (4:10)
    - Blood On The Dance Floor (Refugee Camp Edit - Long) (4:10)
    - Blood On The Dance Floor (TM's Switchblade Mix - Long) (9:52)


    I have them in mp3 format but I don't know if these are fan-made edits...


    I know that on the US CD these are the regular mixes. These are misprints on the CD. Mjrico has it and verified it.





    20) In this thread, there is They Don't Care About Us [Love To Infinity's Walk In The Park Mix - Radio Edit #1] - 4:51 min which is on the Love To Infinity promo CD.


    But, is this version the same as "They Don't Care About Us (Love To Infinity's Walk In The Park Radio Mix)" (4:46) which is released on the singles of TDCAU ?





    21) Where is released "Butterflies (Track Masters Remix with Radio Shouts (feat. Eve))" ? How is this version ?





    22) What are actually the so-called "demos" of the Cascio songs leaked last month ?





    Thank you very much !!! It bring me a lot of help !! :)

  • Unreleased Tracks & Co. / Der Werk-Katalog [zukünftiger Inhalt]

    I have a suggestion about "For All Time" :


    Several months ago, maybe last year, I don't remember exactly, a member of MJFrance had asked a question about "For All Time" to Steve Porcaro. He replied this :


    "I wrote For All Time along with Michael Sherwood in 1990.
    They presented it as a Thriller-era cut, but he actually recorded it while he was making Dangerous."


    So, the version released on Thriller 25 is the new mix made in 2007.


    Hope it can help you :)