Grade Michael

I know this sounds like a silly pointless thread, but I'm bored, and curious exactly what other posters here think specifically about different areas of Michael's talent.

Dancing

I'd like to say he's in his own league, but it feels like I'm selling him short. It's more like he's got his own league, and the two or three leagues between him and whoever is the second best dancer, are all empty. He's that far ahead of everybody else.

Vocals

I think he is the best vocalist of all time, but I can't say he's in his own league. There are others whom I think are in his league, even if they aren't as good.

He has an incredible range, and a lot of different voices he can sing with. He can do a lot of tricky note combinations. And his raspy screaming agressive voice is out of this world incredible. Out of all the things he can do with his voice, his screaming angry voice is my all time favorite MJ voice. It's just so powerful and perfect. The perfect amount of rougness.

Song writing ability

I don't believe he is the best song writer of all time. I think he is an excellent song writer.

Music videos

They begin and end with Michael Jackson. With the exception of him, there aren't many videos that offer anything the song by itself doesn't offer.

Performing

Well he is the best, but I think that is becuase of his dancing. Nobody else can make my jaw fall.

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Music videos

Masterpieces. But dont forget one thing: A LOT of talented professionals are working FOR Michael to make them masterpieces!

you have to remember though, those professionals didn't just make a video for Michael and than never work again for anybody else. The people who worked with Michael worked with a long list of artists and have helped make a ton of videos. But their other videos are still incomparable to Michael's. And it's not just because of the budget and story.

Look at Smooth Criminal. I doubted it costed millions to make, and it's one of the best videos of all time. Remember the time? The first five minutes and guest stars are not what make the video good. It's the ending where Michael screams and dances.

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1. I know that Mike is such a talented perfectionist that working with him means something different.
So the results are often different than with other artists...

2. I am still right with the fact that the videos are not Mikes genious ALONE. Thats what i said and thats what i think!
Look at Thriller: i am 100 percent sure that it wouldnt be the same masterpiece if Mike would have done all by himself.
Director, Choreagrapher etc do make a difference.
Same story for Producer: do you think Thriller would be the same album if Quincy Jones did not produce it?

3. You doubt Smooth Criminal was expensive to make? Well we can do the research but i dont think so!

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I don't think it's his genius alone. It's definitely not. But he usually either coreographs himself or he co choreographs. He tells the editors and camera men I want this angle right at this note. He's basically a co-director.

Heres basically what I mean. The people who worked with michael jackson have worked with Mariah Carey, Eminem, Snoop Dog, Brittney Spears, BackStreet Boys, NSync, and countless others. I know they have becuase these people make appearances on tv here and there and talk about who they've worked with. And their videos have big budgets too. Britney Spears Hit me Baby one More time costed just as much to make as You Rock my World. Ever since 1990 all music videos have been big budget, but they still seem worthless to watch.

No I don't think Thriller would have been the same with Quincy Jones. I think his entire career would have taken a different path. His style of music would have taken a different path and everything. So I'm really glad for that. Even though I like Off the Wall, I'm glad he didn't stick with that style. No Quincy? For all we know Michael could have been singing "It ain't nothing but a G-Thing Baby"

Beat it is a big favorite of mine. I actually don't know what Smooth Criminal's budget was, it just looks like for today's time it was probably your average budget. I could be wrong though. I actually picked it because it's my all time favorite video.