Beiträge von MJ07

Übrigens:

die beliebten Tracks Escape & We've Had Enough sind auch Jerkins Produktionen, und die klingen viel mehr nach Michael als z. B. Unbreakable.
Wäre also unfair, diese Zusammenarbeit vorzuverurteilen ...

Bei Dangerous hat er sich auch der Zeit angepasst --> New Jack Swing
Zu Invincible wars eben Jerkins
und bei Off The Wall/Thriller war Quincy "in"

Wieder ein Album wie Dangerous (mit Riley als Hauptproduzent) wäre nicht innovativ, Jackson würde Rückschrittlichkeit vorgeworfen. Außerdem: Songs wie Give In To Me usw. mit derselben Art Musik zu toppen, ist fast unmöglich. Er sollte was neues machen, vielleicht mit Timbaland! Welches Chart-Potential in Jerkins & Jacksons Arbeit steckt, ließ YRMW nur ansatzweise erahnen, zumal auf Vince stärkere Tracks von ihnen sind.

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Juuhuu... Invincible Teil 2.
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ich fand Invincible sehr geil, jedem das seine ... aber Riley spielt ja auch noch ne Rolle

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She says that Jackson has been writing music since the trial and will be heading back to the studio in a few days, where he'll be working with some of the hottest producers in the industry--Babyface, Will.I.Am, Rodney Jerkins and Sean Garrett.[/b]

Juhu!!! Rodney Jerkins!!! Vielleicht mit remasterten Songs aus den Invincible Sessions? Heißt das, das Album kommt bei Sony raus? Egal. Jerkins hats drauf!

Unbreakable

Er müsste Konservatives (für die Fans) und Experimentelles (für die Charts & neuen Fans) liefern. SexyBack kommt ja z. B. momentan sehr gut an. Invincible hat die Musik eben nicht neu erfunden. Dangerous aber wirkt auf mich im Vergleich zu Invincible weit seiner Zeit voraus. Der Beat von z. B. "Remember The Time" oder "In The Closet" sind unverwüstlich/unsterblich und klingen auch heute noch sehr frisch. Von daher ist die Zusammenarbeit mit Riley eine feine Sache. Allerdings braucht nicht fast das ganze Album nach Riley zu klingen, wie es bei Invincible nach Jerkins geklungen hat. (auf Dangerous ähneln sich z. B. die ersten 4 Tracks ebenso wie auf Invincible die ersten 3). Deshalb wären ein oder zwei von Timbaland/Neptunes produzierte Tracks dazwischen eine gelungene Abwechslung. "Maneater" find ich ganz gelungen, obwohl mich an Timbaland der massive Einsatz von Technik zu z. B. Stimmenverzerrung sehr stört, das hat Mike nicht nötig, ich will seine Stimme pur genießen. Zu den Neptunes kann ich nur sagen, dass mir ein Song im Stil von "Like I Love You" oder "Rock Your Body" sehr gefallen hätte. Ich weiß nicht, wer das in dem Timberlake-Thread geschrieben hat, aber die Songs klingen wirklich z. T. wärmer als die Tracks auf Invincible. Aber mit YRMW, Watever Happens, Break of Dawn war ich auch sehr zufrieden.
Dass es Mike auch allein drauf hat, zeigt BAD, bzw. neuerdings Speechless. Wäre auch nicht verkehrt, sich mal nicht von irgendwelchen Produzenten "vergewaltigen" zu lassen.
Ich wünsch mir für 2007 einen frischen, toughen Michael Jackson, der der gesamten Musikbranche mal wieder kräftig in den Hintern tritt!

Ich würde mich an seiner Stelle den Trends nicht verschließen, und Songs mit Timbaland und den Neptunes aufnehmen. Die jeweils zwei besten kann er ja dann fürs Album nehmen. Auch Rodney wäre nicht verkehrt, immerhin haben YRMW, Unbreakable etc. nen wirklich genialen Beat. Futuresex/Lovesounds klingt einfach frisch und experimentell, Invincible gefällt mir persönlich besser, ist aber dennoch recht konservativ. Dangerous klang damals sehr neu, das tut es auch heute noch. Mir fehlt auch die Unbekümmertheit in seinen Songs, meinetwegen darf das neue Album gerne nach "Rock With You" oder The Way You Make Me Feel" klingen, einfache Beats, die hängenbleiben. Da sehe ich auch wieder einen Nachteil in der Zusammenarbeit mit Timbaland, die Songs sind nicht so straight.
Riley, Jerkins, Timbaland, Neptunes ... daraus die besten Tracks, so würd ich's machen. Auf jeden Fall noch Duett (ist eh längst überfällig). Vielleicht mit Beyonce, oder Lenny Kravitz (das ja schon längst "im Kasten" sein dürfte).

You Don't Know Jackson

Stephen King talks pop culture -- and tries to understand Michael Jackson by Stephen King


I've been sick. Pneumonia. Three weeks of hospital time. Now I'm getting better. Did you miss me? After this column, you may not. But, if you remember way back at the start, I said I'd tell you exactly what I thought about American pop-cult, and if you didn't like it...hey, grab a quarter and call someone who cares. As the punchline of the old fable about the turtle crossing the river says, ''You knew I was a scorpion when you picked me up.''

About a week after I got out of the hospital, I had to go back for X-rays. Since I was still too weak to drive, our longtime caretaker drove me. I'll call him Josh. Josh is a late-forty-something pickup-truck guy, a gun guy, a woods guy, good husband, good daddy; a taciturn Maine Yankee, yes, but an all-around straight shooter.

On the ride to the hospital I happened to bring up Michael Jackson, who recently had been brought in by the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department and fingerprinted. I said something fairly noninflammatory, as I recall -- something like ''Michael's really in trouble now'' -- and my taciturn Yankee caretaker and handyman...well...he just exploded.

They'd taken away the man's living, that was Josh's main scripture; had done it for no good reason and with no proof; had reduced him to doing what Josh termed ''idiotic TV interviews'' to pay the salaries of his considerable staff and to maintain his properties, including what Josh called ''Nevermore.'' (As a Poe fan, I relished that.)

I was fascinated to hear this guy -- who lives with his family in a trim eight-room house -- defend the opulent Jackson lifestyle. When I asked him about it, Josh shrugged and said, ''Michael Jackson was making tens of millions a year. He had every expectation of keeping on the same way for quite a while. Why wouldn't he spend it on property? And if you're gonna have property, you gotta have staff. So then they come and make a bunch of accusations, and he's on the verge of losing everything he worked for.''

They. They. Who, I wanted to know, were they?

According to Josh, Jim Anderson, sheriff of Santa Barbara County, was They No. 1; Anderson had had a hard-on for Jackson for years. Enough so he'd brought the man in on charges that even legal eagles with absolutely no interest in the case (and no CNN aspirations) agreed seemed ''thin.'' Then, Josh went on, there were the accusers -- an unnamed child (sick with cancer, something Josh assumed Anderson would milk for the sympathy vote), his unnamed brother, and their as-yet-unnamed mother. It reminded him, Josh said, of the child-abuse uproar in the '80s, when for a while every nursery school and day-care center in America was supposedly staffed by kiddie-abusing monsters.

I sat silently in my seat, wondering if Josh had ever read or seen The Children's Hour by Lillian Hellman or The Crucible by Arthur Miller. I thought the answer would be no; during his time off, Josh is a Frasier kind of guy. But I thought he'd put his finger on something, and I still do. Nor was he quite done. As he turned into the hospital's outpatient driveway, he mentioned They No. 3.

The American press.

''This used to be a country where you were innocent until you were proven guilty,'' Josh said. ''Even if you were a funny-looking gink like Michael Jackson. Now look! The TV and the newspapers have practically got him up on a cross.''

I've thought about that conversation a lot since then, and do you know what? I think Josh was right. I think it's sad that talk-show hosts think it's okay to make fun of this eccentric and obviously disturbed man; I think it's horrible, almost sick-making, that tabloids like the New York Post and the New York Daily News can regularly vilify him as Wacko Jacko and (for pix with the umbrella, natch) Scary Poppins. Maybe he's a child molester and a jury will say so, but right now, sir or madam, he is as innocent as you are. Right now, he's just this weird guy who came by his kooks and kinks from being raised in a gotta-sing, gotta-dance family where he was the principal breadwinner because he and Janet were, quite clearly, the only ones who really could sing and dance. When your childhood is stolen from you, it's probably not all that unusual to try to steal a little back in your early middle age.

None of this gives Michael Jackson a free pass to sleep with the kiddies, whether their parents say it's okay or not. I'm not much for politically correct-speak, but that really is inappropriate behavior, even if he is just lying there and looking dreamily into what he calls ''the face of God.'' But let's be crystal clear here: ALTHOUGH IT'S UNDOUBTEDLY WEIRD, THIS IS NOT THE CHARGE.

Nor does it address the question I'm asking here. What I'm asking is whether this is still a country where a peculiar person such as Michael Jackson can get a fair shake and be considered innocent until proven guilty...or is this just a 21st-century American barnyard where we all feel free to turn on the moonwalking rooster...and peck it to death?

Hey, you tell me. I'm only asking.

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Hab heute meine Farewell My Summer Love CD bekommen ... der Song Melodie kam mir irgendwie bekannt vor ... und zwar erinnert der (besonders in den schnelleren Passagen) stark an Elton Johns "Are You Ready For Love" (der ist von 1979, wurde aber 2003 neu aufgelegt) --> also war Melodie (falls dies nicht wiederum eine Coverversion ist) vor "Are You Ready" da; Die beiden sind ja befreundet ... also nic für ungut. Hört euch mal beide Songs an ;)) und sagt mir, welchen ihr besser findet (dumme Frage, ich weiß)

ein Album wie Vince fänd ich für 2007 net übel, nur sollte da mehr up tempo tracks drauf sein.
mikes soul zeit war lang genug bei motown, außerdem hat m. M n. Invincible auch genug Soul (Break of Dawn!!!)
übrigens gleichen sich nicht nur die ersten 3 songs auf Invincible, sondern z. B. auch Jam, Dangerous, ITC .. auf dem hochgelobten Dangerous

Könnte es sein, dass Mike beim neuen Album auf Songs aus der Jerkins Zeit zurückgreift?
Rodney sagte 2002 in einem Interview, man habe "noch sehr gutes, teilweise besseres Material in den Schränken liegen als veröffentlicht wurde". [Stichwort: Escape] Die Titel dieser zurückgestellten Tracks sind "The Pain", "Get Around", "Kick It", "Pressure";
Michael hat das in der Vergangenheit ja auch schon gemacht: Come Together ist aus der BAD Zeit, Blood On The Dancefloor aus der Dangerous Zeit.

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künftig sollte michael keine dolmetscher mehr mitnehmen - sondern dich. [/b]

damit wäre ich einverstanden

solange kein vollständiges Transkript (2005?) vorliegt, glaube ich nichts.

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k, hier das vollständige Transskript (ich hab mich geirrt )
Englisches Transkript der SMAPxSMAP-Show (Teil von Michael im Studio)
Thank you to Hippoko!!! & MALIBU

SMAP members are standing, totally mystified by what has happened. The music which they were singing to was suddenly stopped. Shingo Katori is lying on the floor because he got upset.

There is a writing on top left, saying “Michael appears in SMAPxSMAP as a total surprise to the members!â€

Narrator: Now the meeting of a lifetime!

Masahiro Nakai: Who’s there?

Staff: Sorry, but it is somebody special.

“Beat It†starts playing.

Michael is waving at the SMAP members from upstairs.

SMAP members are standing, dropping jaws. Looking at Michael making a peace sign, they make peace signs, too.

Michael descends the stairs to the studio.

Clapping from the people in the studio. SMAP members do not know how to react.

SMAP: “This is impossible!†“I am getting goose bumps (meaning this is too great a sensation)!!!†“WOW WOW WOWâ€

Michael touches SMAP members’ hands with his.

The Japanese wiring on top left says, “Michael comes to SMAPxSMAP!â€

Nakai: Michael Jackson?

Michael Jackson’s name is on the screen.

Nakai: Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson?

Michael: Yeah.

Members: Really? Hello.

Takuya Kimura (in green T-shirt): You are not the impersonator from Roppongi (a popular district in Tokyo), are you?

Members still cannot believe that Michael is here.

Nakai: Are you really Michael Jackson?

Michael: Yes. Very happy to be here. I enjoyed the performance. It was very nice. (Japanese interpreter translates what Michael says.)

Members: Unbelievable!

Nakai: So, our music was stopped because Michael Jackson came to the studio, wasn’t it?

Kimura: Of course they would stop the music (if Michael comes in). The music should be stopped.

Kimura: So, the staff knew all along that Michael was watching us perform, didn’t they?

Michael: Yes, I enjoyed it, very much.

Kimura: Oh, common, (the staff tricked us)!

Goro Inagaki (in while long-sleeved shirt) is smiling and in happy spirits.

Nakai: Would you like to sit here?

Kimura: Let’s change the music. Let’s play “We Are the Worldâ€.

Nakai: Tell me, tell me, what brought you here?
Is this the right microphone? Should I use this microphone? Can I talk without microphone, can I?

Staff’s voice: You can talk without the microphone.

Nakai: So, I can talk without the microphone.

Kimura: We don’t need any microphone. Our spirits are sky high and we do not need any microphone. It’s OK.

Nakai: So, what brought you here today?

(Translator makes a slight mistake in translation here, and asks Michael, “How did you get here?â€)

Michael: Oh, we drove today, to see you. We drove to see you. To surprise you.

Loud clapping from the staff.

Michael: We enjoyed it.

Michael shakes hands with Nakai.

Nakai: Your hand is very beautiful.

Michael: Oh, God bless you (shakes hands with Nakai again).

Michael: Now, I am very happy to be here in Japan, and I think you are wonderful, lovely people. I mean it. Thank you for accepting me. Really.

Nakai: What is happening here?

Kimura: This is what we call “too big surpriseâ€.

Nakai: I cannot host this program anymore (from too much excitement).

Nakai: I do not know how to proceed with the show. My mind is not working properly.

Kimura: What I think is this. The moment Michael entered the studio, you, Nakai, directly returned to yourself who went to Michael’s concert with us as a passionate fan. All you have experienced since then is somehow suspended right now.

Nakai: I just don’t know how to react. I cannot react.

Kimura: I see you can’t.

Translator says “They are happy to see you.â€

Michael: Likewise.

Nakai: I cannot think of what to ask. I am totally unprepared. Do you know about us?

Michael: (Pointing at the background of the studio) It’s beautiful.

Kimura: This is called LED, a new technology we recently started using. (SMAP uses LED for their concerts, too.)

Nakai: But this device gets out of order from time to time.

Nakai: Noise gets in sometimes.

Kimura: Can I ask a question to the staff? When we were rehearsing, you told us that there were noises and we had to rehearse again. That was a lie, wasn’t it?

Nakai: You don’t need to ask question to the staff now. Let’s talk with Michael Jackson more. You are Michael Jackson, aren’t you? (He still cannot believe it.)

Katori: Me, please. When I saw Michael on the stage of the Tokyo Dome when I was 10, 11 years old, I promised myself that I would stand on the same stage as you in future. And we could do the concerts in the Tokyo Dome.

Michael: Oh, God bless you.

Michael shakes hands with Katori.

Katori: Thank you so much.

Clapping.

Katori: I can stop working from tomorrow (now that my dream has come true).

Michael laughs.

Nakai: Let’s introduce ourselves. Self-introduction. OK? Self-introduction.

Tsuyoshi Kusanagi (in yellow parker): My name is Tsuyoshi Kusanagi.

Michael and Kusanagi shake hands.

Inagaki: Goro, Goro Inagaki.

Nakai: He does your impersonation as “Oshinobi Goro (Goro incognito).â€
He does sketches as Michael Jackson, and he is going to show it a little to you.

Inagaki stands up.

Kimura: Oh, we the members feel so embarrassed to see this in front of Michael Jackson. Our stomachs are turning.

Nakai explains to Michael: We will show you. We have a series of sketch called “Oshinobi Goro†or “Oshinobi Michael (Michael incognito)â€.

“Oshinobi Michael†clip, in which Inagaki impersonates Michael, is shown on the screen.

Narrator: “Oshinobi Michael†is now revived after ten years now, in front of Michael Jackson himself.

Nakai: So, you should show it to Michael.

Inagaki: I had the privilege of impersonating Mr. Michael Jackson. Could you have a look?

Inagaki impersonates Michael.

Michael looks very much amused by this and enthusiastically claps hands.

Nakai: You got laughter from Michael! You got laughter from Michael!

Kimura: I think Michael understands. He is kind enough to go along with us. Michael is reading the air (meaning Michael understands their admiration for him).

Nakai: Michael’s laughter!

Inagaki: I respect you SO much!

Nakai: Let’s continue the self-introduction.

Kimura: Nice to meet you. My name is Takuya Kimura.

Michael and Kimura shake hands.

Katori: I am glad to meet you. My name is Shingo.

Michael shakes hands with Shingo.

Katori: I love you.

Michael: I love you, too.

Nakai: Did you now anything about SMAP?

Michael: I learned about them today. I enjoyed what I saw upstairs. Very very good. I just wanted to surprise you and say thank you so much for having me and God bless you and good luck on everything.

Michael shakes hands with members again.

Nakai: I like you.

Michael: I like you, too. I like you, too.

Nakai: Are you already going? Is this bye-bye?

Michael shakes hands with members.

Michael: (Looking at the background) This is great. (Walking around the studio)

Nakai: (Shouting to the staff) You should change the image on the screen for Michael. Can’t you move the image for him?

Kimura: Now, Mr. Michael Jackson is impressed by the work done by the engineers in our program. (It is said on the screen in Japanese, “Michael is showing interest in LEDâ€)

The image of LED starts moving.

Kimura: You probably should look at it from some distance.

Shingo: Michael is asking who made this.

Michael: Thank you, thank you. (Waving at the people in the studio)

SMAP members and Michael say bye-bye to each other, shake hands again.

Members: Thank you, Michael.

Michael: God bless you.

Members: Love and Peace!

Michael: Peace! Love you!

Members: See you next time.

Michael: OK. See you next time.

Michael leaves the studio.

Narrator: Michael’s visit took the studio by storm.

SMAP members see Michael off.
Katori: His sunglasses are so cool.

Michael disappears upstairs.

und wer von euch holt sich den wii? na ...?

Leute, unser Mike wurde von denen gründlich verarscht! Ich meine nicht die Parodie von 96, sondern die Sache mit der LED Wand im Hintergrund.
Bei 4:03 Min. sagt er, dass er die LED Wand im Hintergrund mag.Dann kommt ein Joke, Gelächter und die violette Einblendung LED. Ich möchte garnicht wissen, was da dummes darunter steht.

Ab der 8. Minute geht er allein hinter zur Wand, dann kommt wieder Jokes und Gelächter und abermals diese Einblendung. Ziemlich unfair, da er nichts versteht. Sein Verhalten ist sonderbar, keine Frage. Warum muss er die Wand antatschen, als hätte er nie zuvor soetwas gesehen?

Ich möchte nicht wissen, was die sonst noch für Jokes über ihn gerissen haben ... den Auftritt hätte er sich wirklich sparen können. Sein Verhalten gegen Ende wirkt einzelgängerisch und sonderbar, srry. Wie lange er da allein an dieser Wand steht, ich weiß nicht ... mir bleibt ein bitterer Nachgeschmack ...

EDIT: Positiv ist, dass er verdammt gut drauf war!!!

Der Auftritt war zweischneidig. Einerseits versteht er nicht, was die anderen für Witze (über ihn?) machen, trotzdem behält er seine gute Laune.
Andererseits zeigt er Humor, wenn er in so eine Show kommt - Respekt. Und er hat normal tief gesprochen und nicht so gekünstelt hoch - auch sehr gut. Jedenfalls darf er mit dem, was er erreicht hat, ein Selbstbewusstsein haben, dass jedem Lacher trotzt. Er ist der größte Entertainer aller Zeiten.

EDIT: Dumm fand ich am Ende die Lacher, als er an dieser TV-Wand war, hätte er auch lassen können ...

Hammer!!

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das könnten wir Fans ja ändern

loooooooooooool :zaubern

wiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeee geil ist daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas???

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richtig erfasst, das kinn.
das hab ich gemeint. is auch das einzige was man vergleichen kann.
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genau das hab ich gemacht

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was du denn genommen? uhu?

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danke stephan ... ich sass jetzt wie gebannt, und dachte ich brauche nen augenarzt.
ich seh da auch NIX ähnliches.
wie denn auch.... [/b]

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