Beiträge von ronja

    Man kann - denke ich - einem Menschen schon von ganzem Herzen verzeihen( wollen) und dennoch unter der Tat des selben nach wie vor leiden und auch aussprechen, wie es einem damit ging- verzeihen heißt doch nicht verschweigen! Sondern der Versuch loszulassen, den Groll abzulegen, Frieden zu schließen. Vielleicht auch die Beweggründe des anderen zu verstehen versuchen

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    CAPITAL TOKYU, the most famous hotel in JAPAN, closed at the end of last month.
    (The hotel was built 43years ago)


    A lot of musicians, politicians had stayed at the hotel ( former US president Bill Clinton, The most famous band Beatles..etc)


    Michael Jackson had stayed three times.


    I learned the following story on TV yesterday.


    Mr.Maruyama, the chief of the hotel, said,


    "My most unforgettable figure was MICHAEL JACKSON"
    "MICHAEL JACKSON was a true gentleman, I was always well impressed by his good behaviour"


    And, Mr. Yamaguchi, the general manager of the hotel, also said,


    "MJ was so naive and kind person. I was favorably impressed by his nature."
    "He had a beautiful hands, long slender fingers. It was fantastic"
    "He was dancing all night long at his floor, and the floor was soaked with his sweat"


    I was so happy to hear their story.


    Michael Jackson has an attractive personality and is liked by all


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    Judge Nixes Woman‘s Jackson‘s Claim
    by Josh Grossberg
    Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:32:17 PM PST



    She said, "I am the one," but for now the courts told her to just beat it.


    A Los Angeles judge on Wednesday rejected a British woman‘s seemingly off-the-wall claim that she is the mother of Michael Jackson‘s three children on a legal technicality, according to City News Service.


    Nona Paris Lola Jackson, who refers to herself in court papers a "black Jew born in Britain" and signed her lawsuit "dudu," filed her petition Oct. 20 in Los Angeles Superior Court asserting that she had a sexual relationship for years with the "Billie Jean" singer and asking that she play a role in the child custody agreement Jackson struck with ex-wife Debbie Rowe two months ago.


    However, after reviewing the case, Superior Court Judge Robert A. Schnider dismissed the motion, saying the U.K. native offered no evidence before the hearing that Jackson and Rowe were alerted to her filing, despite the fact that attorneys for the estranged couple showed up in court.


    There was no immediate comment from the Jackson camp following Wednesday‘s hearing. When the suit was first filed, the entertainer‘s publicist, Raymone Bain, said she preferred "not to focus attention to this ludicrous claim."


    Nona Jackson sought a legal declaration that she, not Rowe, should be the one Jackson‘s kids—nine-year-old Prince Michael Jr., eight-year-old Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and four-year-old Prince Michael II, otherwise known as Blanket—call "mom."


    "Michael and I are a sexually active couple and have been this way from the beginning," her lawsuit asserts.


    During Wednesday‘s hearing, Nona Jackson affirmed her belief by phone, telling the judge that the former King of Pop never had sexual relations with his first wife, Lisa Marie Presley, whom he divorced after 20 months in 1996. Nor, she said, did Rowe, Jackson‘s second wife, whom he married later that same year and divorced in 1999 and whom the courts recognize as the mother of Prince and Paris. (The verdict‘s still out on the mother of Blanket, the baby Jackson infamously dangled over a hotel balcony—Jackson has never revealed the her identity.)


    After Schnider informed Nona Jackson of his decision, the plaintiff reportedly asked him, "So what does that mean for me?" She also insisted that she did send Jackson and Rowe copies of her allegations, which outline her supposedly secret life as the Moonwalker‘s paramour and muse (she says she wrote more than 3,000 songs for Jackson).


    The judge did leave the woman a chance to renew her case, noting that a hearing on the claims could be scheduled again once she serves Jackson and Rowe correctly.


    But for now, it doesn‘t look like Nona Jackson will factor into the custody arrangement the entertainer and Rowe sealed back in September.


    Although she initially forfeited custody of Prince and Paris, telling the court that she had the children for him and that "they‘re his kids," Rowe attempted to get her visitation rights reinstated in 2003, after Jackson was arrested on child-molestation charges of which he was eventually acquitted. The two sides finally struck a compromise, though neither refused to divulge details of the settlement.


    Meanwhile, the 48-year-old singer is attempting to recover from his botched comeback performance at the World Music Awards in London earlier this month. He claims to be working on a new album and is due to make a non-musical appearance Dec. 19 in Japan, where he will be feted at a party commemorating the 25th anniversary of Thriller.


    He is also reportedly planning a trip to Rwanda next year where he will survey the health care system in the African nation and come up with ideas to improve living conditions there


    www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=d676621d-5974-4407-a932-9d1784f85ec2&page=2#

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    Sehr guter Artikel, der die derzeitige Situation sehr gut beschreibt:


    GREAT EXPECTATIONS
    Friday, 17 November 2006
    Michael Jackson at the 2006 World Music Awards
    November 15th 2006
    An Exclusive Report for MJJ Forum by Robin Meltzer, London, UK
    With the exception of the BRIT Awards, which have tried in recent years to shed their image of chaos and disorder, the UK does not play host to many music industry awards ceremonies. So when it was announced that the World Music Awards (WMAs) – unique among award ceremonies for its focus on sales alone – were coming to London, interest was aroused.
    Interest went through the roof when it was revealed that the star guest would be Michael Jackson, who would be presented with the Diamond Award - a World Music Award presented infrequently to artists who have sold over 100 million albums in their career.
    Michael Jackson could actually have been presented with seven diamond awards because it was revealed in the run-up to the ceremony by Raymone Bain, Michael’s manager/press office, that the WMAs would recognise an astonishing 750 million records sold since he was eleven.
    The day before the ceremony, it was announced by the Guinness Book of World Records that the album ‘Thriller’ alone had sold 104 million copies since its release at the end of 1982.
    Those statistics would have been enough to almost guarantee some positive news for Michael following his rare public appearance to the UK to attend the awards. That should have been the story: factual, precise, undeniable.
    However, in the two weeks prior to the event, staff at the World Music Awards used Michael’s attendance shamelessly to create a sense of expectation that spiralled completely out of control. Earls Court is a large venue – one of Britain’s very biggest – and it was not quite full. It would have been even less full had the WMA website not placed Michael’s name and image at the top of their list of performers. Of course fans would have attended and been extremely grateful to have seen the man in person, but it would not have been the kind of event that it eventually became.
    In addition, a confusingly worded press release issued by the WMA promised that Michael Jackson would “appear on stage as part of a spectacular tribute to ‘Thriller’ produced by Quincy Jones”.
    What exactly did that mean? He would take to the stage and perform the song “Thriller”? Alone? With others? One song out of many from the ‘Thriller’ album? Or just that song? Who was in the tribute? What was Quincy Jones’ involvement? Would he produce the spectacular, or was that just a reference to the fact that he produced the album?
    Staff at the ceremony, and informal contacts of Michael’s, also confirmed to fans and fan clubs that Michael would be performing but there were mixed rumours as to what he would perform.
    Fans went crazy, waiting in line outside Earls Court box office when they were mistakenly told by organisers that no standing tickets would be available on line or on the phone. In the event, the tickets were issued through the normal channels so the waiting was unnecessary. But fans shrugged it off – “so what if some of us had to queue in the cold for tickets,” they probably said. “This is a Michael Jackson performance!”
    None of this is particularly surprising on its own. Events of this size are frequently beset by ticketing chaos – with misinformation occurring as a result of the number of people involved in making money from the public. Promoters, tickets agencies and of course the WMAs themselves – all these were getting a slice of the action and this was not the first time that such establishments had demonstrated their communication problems.
    No, the astonishing thing – especially now in hindsight of course but actually some of us were already saying this in the lead up to the show – was how no-one in Michael’s camp, nor from the WMAs, sought to dampen some of the press expectation that was only ever going to lead to disappointment.
    By Monday, two days before the ceremony, anyone conducting a Google news search for Michael’s name would have been presented with a choice of some 300 news stories about his upcoming performance of “Thriller”. Of course most of those stories were just replicas of each other, but nevertheless, the news was out there – and it was becoming an international event. Notably, many of the stories were largely positive – or at least neutral.
    Michael had arrived in London on the Sunday before the Wednesday night ceremony, and the British press were definitely interested. His smiling face and the mobbing fans featured extensively in the press, on the internet and even on the television news. There were the usual stories about eccentricity and ‘wacko’ behaviour but essentially the press were playing along. Here was a true world star, back in our country, and about to perform here for the first time in nine years.
    At some point during this period of fun, unnamed WMA officials told journalists that the performance Michael was due to give was “something of a comeback”. Not attributed, but never denied.
    This bandwagon kept on rolling. It picked up more and more people as the Wednesday night of the show approached. Before long, the incredible career accomplishments that Michael was actually in London to celebrate were taking a back seat. Few seemed to care that he had sold 750 million records. Incidentally, even fewer seemed to care that it was ludicrous to bill Michael’s performance as part of a 25th anniversary of ‘Thriller’ when it was actually 23 years and 11 months since the album’s release. No, the important thing here was the ‘COMEBACK’.
    As far as I have been able to discern, at no point did anyone from Michael Jackson’s team try to protect their employer by maintaining a normal relationship with the press in order to play the oldest game in the PR rulebook – managing expectations. Rarely has this complete lack of any public relations strategy had more damaging effect for Michael’s status as an artist. Put quite simply, there is more to public relations than issuing rebuttals to crazy tabloid stories. That’s part of it. But you also have to manage the journalists, court them, give them information and treat them with respect – even if you have to hold your nose when you do it. It is completely inexcusable that no-one sought to calm the hysteria that the media and the staff at the World Music Awards conspired to build.
    The final proof of the ineptitude with which this entire project was managed occurred of all places on the red carpet in the entrance to the ugly Earls Court building in London SW5. Incidentally, organisers had told media the day before that Michael would be arriving on the red carpet – so the media were camped outside the venue as well as inside it. The mania surrounding him was, by all accounts, so intense that it would have been impossible for him to stop and chat to fans in the same manner that Tom Cruise always does when he attends films premieres in Leicester Square. The media and the public are particularly excitable in the presence of Michael Jackson, so if the reports of Michael Jackson fans booing him as he entered are true, it is difficult to excuse such rude behaviour because his movement would have been severely limited. It is more likely that those who booed were simply ‘red carpet whores’ who wait to get a glimpse of anyone with more charisma than them, and not predominantly fans, who would have been inside the venue waiting for the great ‘comeback’.
    So, as he arrived, journalists managed to ask Michael if he was performing. Some asked if he was singing. Others asked if he was singing Thriller. And here we have the most ridiculous and humiliating part of this entire saga:
    It was left to Michael Jackson himself to tell journalists, 90 minutes before he was due on stage, that there had been “a misunderstanding” about his appearance on stage.
    A catalogue of failures on the part of the people he employs combined with an excitable media being fed blatant untruths by the World Music Awards had led to the indignity of surely the most famous person on the planet having to correct days of inaccurate reporting himself. I do not know Michael Jackson so I have no idea if he appreciates the ridiculousness of that, nor whether it dawned on him that he should not have been the person that had to issue that press announcement. But I’m pretty confident that, at the very least, he must have been aware that something was not right.
    Is it any wonder that the overwhelming mood in the media lounge after that was bewilderment? That the negative headlines were penned even before Michael took to the stage? That the audience in the venue who checked the internet on their mobile devices and saw those headlines spread the word around the arena that Michael was about to disappoint?
    How can it be that an audience in London, watching an American super-icon accept an award officially confirming his status as the most successful entertainer of all time, was about to descend into boos some moments later?
    Can it all be explained by the combination of factors I have outlined above?
    Well, no. There is also the fact that after accepting his award, Michael took to the stage again to close the show by joining a choir who had already sung two choruses of We Are The World. He shook hands with members of the choir, sang a couple of choruses with them and then appeared to have his microphone switched off due to what was later claimed to be a ‘curfew’ issue at Earls Court?
    There are so many things wrong with this scenario that it’s hard to know where to begin.
    Firstly, the choir and Michael were singing over the commercially available version of We Are The World. You can buy an instrumental version of that song on eBay for five bucks. Bob Dylan’s dulcet tones were heard echoing around the arena before Michael even entered the stage. This was the type of thing that people expect at school concerts. “Oh, let’s just sing over the original track, it’ll be fine.” How has the man who has worked with the world’s greatest producers and sound engineers been put in this position, and who is responsible? Where are the people, either in his own organisation – whatever is left of it – or in the WMAs who tried to prevent it?
    It is baffling that Michael’s microphone appeared to be cut off. It allowed the press the next day to speculate (wrongly, of course) that it had been cut to save the embarrassment of his bum notes! If there was a curfew to consider, had no-one thought about this beforehand?
    The great thing about We Are The World was that Michael took the time to fully interact with the fans that had spent the entire day in line at the venue waiting to get near the stage. He walked right down the catwalk, with the choir behind him, threw his jacket out to the adoring crowd, took some banners and let himself be touched by his fans. These are the things he does naturally. He would have done that whether he was performing or not.
    There was simply no need for the people around this superb artist and this lamentable ceremony to build up the idea of a performance if Michael was unable or unwilling to deliver more than a chorus of We Are The World. It turned what should have been a celebratory evening for Michael as a world-record breaker into a disappointment for thousands of people.
    Michael Jackson’s position as a living legend was consolidated when Beyoncé presented him with the Diamond Award. She said that without Michael Jackson, she would never have become a performer and she said that an enormous amount of other performers all over the world feel the same. Michael responded with a short but sweet speech, thanking his family and those who had stood by him. At the end of it, looking at him holding his award, it was apparent what a legacy this was for Michael and how unobtainable his achievements are to any other artist.
    He should have been floating on air that night.
    Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, he also consolidated his image as someone whose time has passed. Many of the people who had come to see the show to get a rare glimpse of Michael performing would not describe themselves as ‘fans’ – they are just music lovers who are interested in seeing a legend in the flesh. When Chris Brown attempted to recreate the ‘Thriller’ video before Michael received his award, no-one could deny his talent but neither could anyone deny the disappointment of seeing him dressed in the red ‘Thriller’ suit and performing a song made famous by the man who was waiting in the wings dressed in very different clothes for a night of award-receiving rather than performing. There was also the uncomfortable feeling or fear that they would never again be able to see Michael performing like Chris Brown.
    And yet surely those people were wrong. In months or years to come, of course Michael Jackson can release more music and entertain people in sold out arenas – if he wants it. The over-riding impression left by the World Music Awards 2006 is that right then, he didn’t want it.
    So why on earth did everyone else connected to this poorly-produced production allow the myth to perpetuate that he did want it? Why was it left to Michael himself to correct that myth? Why don’t the people who care about Michael as a person take the actions that are necessary to protect him as an artist?
    Until those questions can be answered, we should be gravely concerned about the ability of Michael to overcome the hurdles necessary to take to the stage properly – when he really does want it.
    :ehre


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    Also ich finde eure Disskussion echt spannend-Hutab vor eurem durchhaltevermögen...
    Nur eines noch...ich trau mr. Jackson in Sachen schmerz und damit irgendwas machen einiges zu-siehe "Tanzen mit Nagel im Fuss" oder "auf die Bühne krabbeln und weitermachen, als die Bühne in Münschen runterknallte" Beide male war er verletzt und hat es erst mal ignoriert. Übrigesn gehen auch solche Bewegungen wie den Arm nach dem Auskugeln heben noch einige Zeit, ehe alles anschwillt und ehe das Schmerzempfinden wieder einsetzt ( hab ich selber schon gesehen während meienr Arebit als Sprechstundenschwester vor 1000000 Jahren;-) ) Und nochmal: Als erstes hat NICHT Michael von Misshandlungen gesprochen, sondern Jeramin. Und auch die "normale grobe Behandlung" sind in dem fall nicht gerchtfertigt- er hat ´sich selbst gestellt, ist selbst angereist und hat sich in ihre Hände gegeben.
    Und genau das Audio, was aussagen soll, das nichts passierte, zeigt, das z.B die handschellen zu eng waren und sie zeigen das er auf jedne fall Angst hat, sonst würde er nicht pfeifen wie ein Kind im dunklen Wald. In einem solchen Fällen könne auch " die normale grobe Behandlung" sehr beängstigend sein- vor allem wenn man gewalterfahrung hat, aber jetzt seit Jahrzehnten ganz sicher nicht merh grob behandelt wurde, weil man sich eine "unanstastbare" Stellung erarbeitet hat.
    Trotzdem haben beide Argumentationne, die von dennis udn die von Indigo was für sich- ihr solltet euch ma in dern Mitte trefen- so weit seit ihr doch gar nicht voneienander entfernt... ;D

    find das hier och nett- bin aber ne Räubertochter und strolche so durch die Gegend sach da wat wo mir wat gefällt oder och nicht gefällt... und das ist immer sehr unterschiedlich. Find ees auch gut das es veraschiwedene Angebote gibt- solange, wie Bady sagt, alle versuchen sich gegenseitig zu resperktieren und den dasinsraum gönnen

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    Muss dir gaaanz dolle zustimmen! so hab ich das auchgesehen. fand es trotzdem enorm, das er hätte für meine Ansicht etwas selbstbewußter hätte sein könne- er hat sich ziemlich bei Bain und Will rückversichtert, mit Blicken, aber ich fand trotzdem, es ist Klasse, wie raumgreifend dieses fragiele Wesen eben totzdem war. Und wie locker, eben trotzdem er da was machte, wozu er keine Lust hatte, wie er selbt trotzdem sehr deutlich macht. Ist schon spannend, wie das geht, Locker sein, lachen, auch entspannt sein und trotzdem mit einer unwahrscheinlich höflichen Art klarrzumachen, das er keine Bock hat. Ganz großes Kino- und er hat nix über sich gesagt, kein Pip, was er wirklich macht, wie weit was ist, nix einfach :respekt:rofl

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    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/29/...ael_Jackson.php


    Michael Jackson to make rare public appearance at World Music Awards in London


    The Associated Press


    Published: October 29, 2006


    LONDON Michael Jackson will make a rare public appearance at the World Music Awards in London next month, organizers announced Sunday.


    The reclusive king of pop will receive a Diamond Award, given to artists who sell more than 100 million albums, at the industry ceremony on Nov. 15.


    "We are thrilled to be bringing the World Music Awards to London, the music capital of the world," said founder Melissa Corken.


    "The presence of Michael Jackson is very exciting for us," she added,


    Jackson has made few public appearances since being acquitted of child-molestation charges in June 2005. He left the United States soon after, and has spent time in Bahrain and Ireland.


    Jackson last performed in Britain as part of the HIStory tour in 1997. In 2001, he addressed the Oxford Union student debating society.


    The World Music Awards were held in Monaco for 15 years before moving to the United States in 2004 and 2005. This year's event at London's Earls Court Arena is due to be hosted by Lindsay Lohan, with performances from Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, Katie Melua and Andrea Bocelli.


    The annual showbiz awards select winners based on the strength of their worldwide record sales,


    Previous recipients include Celine Dion, The Rolling Stones, Britney Spears, Bon Jovi and Kanye West.


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    On the Net:


    World Music Awards, http://www.worldmusicawards.com

    vielleicht hat sich auch Sneddy vertan- weil auch von seiner Seite hat man nix mehr dazu gehört, weder im Prozess noch nin einer Klage, die er gegen Michael wegen verleumnung anhängen wollte... hätte er geklagt, sei sicher, hätten wir es gewußt- weil jeden klagenfurz bekommen wir ja auch sonst mit.
    Denke, Samenthandschuh hatten sie nicht an und Michael ist auich eine solche Behandlung nicht gewöhnt...hat man sich in der Mitte getroffen und gegenseitig irgendwann den Mund gehalten... übrigens kam die erste behauptung nicht von Michael sondern von jermanin bei Larry King, Wochen vor dem 60Min- Interview.
    Aber ich will hier- um gotteswillen- keine Handschellen/Misshandlungsdiskussion lostreten. weil da gibs schon ellenlange Threads zu

    man das war doch blos die Idee von diesme Bill- wenn Michael sagt, darüber hätte er noch nicht nachgedacht- wie kann man daraus machen, das er jetzt darüber nachdenkt und DAS DANN AUCH WIRKLICH UMSETZT?
    das ist so, als ob ich zu scraemy sagen würe, " Du könntest mal die Wände in deinem Zimmer rosa streichen..." und antwortet mir, weil er erstaunt oder höflich ist" Darüber hab ich noch gar nicht nachgedacht..."
    Da sagt er doch nicht, daser nächste Woche rosa Wände hat... Sorry- Scraemy, solltest du rosa Wände lieben , was ich bezweifle, dann viel Spaß...

    ich finde es , nach dem ich die Sendung sah, richtig, das er absagte. Es war eine B- Promi-Sendung. Die einzigen wirklich prominenten menschen waren Robbie, der gratuliert hat und - naja- hüstel- Paris Hilton. Alles andere war Deutschlands Provinzprominenz, ganz akzeptabel nochNina Hagen (ist schon eine internationale Größe, auch wenn das vielen nicht mehr bewußt ist)Nena,Rosenstolz Janett, Sarah Conner und Herr Mittermeier. Aber wie gesagt, kein internationales Nivau. Für eine ersten Auftritt echt nicht geeignet. Wenn es denn schon Deutschland sein muss, dan bitte Wetten das oder Bambie oder irgwend was inder Größenordnung.
    Hatte mir von der Bravo-sendung wirklicjh mehr versprochen, weil sie eben über Jahrzehnte an Stars dran waren. Auch dieser Take Thataufguss war - eben ein Aufguss, weil ohne Robbie ohne internationalen Wert. Wie gesagt hatte mir von dem Event mehr versprochen. Schön das wenigstens Michael berater das durchschauten- oder er einfach keine Bock hatte!!!