ist doch sein Bier, was er wann macht mit SEINER Mucke- oder? Und Lügen ist für mich was anders....
Beiträge von ronja
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ach Michael sicher auch...
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Hm da sind aber einige Unrichtigkeiten drin- zb ist MJJSoure schon länger off! Und in den USA war er auch nicht
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Ja stimmt , habe ich jetzt auch mitbekommen, er ist von2005. Es gibt auch noch einen von 2003:
The Margolis quotes are from an article originally published in The Observer in Feb, 2003. This is the original article:
Why my friend Michael is a fine father
Last week's documentary about Michael Jackson astonished the world. But Jonathan Margolis, the British writer who knows him well, says Jackson is as good a parent as anyone - and better than most
Sunday February 9, 2003
The ObserverThis is, perhaps, not the best week for declaring that Michael Jackson is rather a good father. But I do so now on the basis of more than Martin Bashir's television documentary.
I spent several months working with Michael and his guru and friend, the former Oxford University rabbi Shmuley Boteach, on a still-unfinished book about, interestingly, the importance of adults retaining their childlike qualities.I got to like Michael and his children a lot. He is sweet, charming, intelligent, thinking, and highly eccentric. He is also deeply sad - not in the contemporary sense of being inadequate - but sad as in melancholic, unhappy and damaged. He is, in my judgment, a good man.
His older children, Prince and Paris, whom I spent a considerable time with, are bright, well mannered, unspoilt and unaffected.
Apart from knowing the unconventional Jacksons a little bit, I am now in my forties and a father of more than average experience for my age. I have co-raised three children, the youngest now a teenager, and have hardline, bordering on over-protective, views on parenting.
I get upset at seeing shaven-headed little kids been thumped in Sainsbury's and even angrier at casual middle-class child cruelty. I shout 'child abuser' at smug parents on bicycles who show off their green credentials by towing little Archie through traffic at exhaust-pipe height in those baby trailers.
Although it was in the best traditions of compelling, car crash TV and will win shedloads of awards, the synthetic empathy and tendentious self-aggrandisement of Bash Ears (as George Best, another victim, amusingly calls this clumsy, fake Louis Theroux) were too much for me.
The film did show the Michael I know: naive, simplistic, autocratic and with disastrous taste in furnishings. I am sure, however, that he is not a child molester, inadvisable sleepovers or not.
He has studied childcare with dedication. He is committed to thoughtful, non-violent parenting. He handles Prince and Paris with a skill and patience that puts mine to shame. And, no, they never wore masks when I was with them. Nobody I know thinks ill of Michael's parenting abilities either, even post-Bashir.
Aware that I am acquainted with him, a variety of people rang me last week to say how angry they were. Have we become so cynical and paranoid, one professional man demanded, that it is impossible to love kids quite asexually without provoking suspicion? 'For Christ's sake,' he ranted, 'when I was small I had books about Noddy and Big Ears sleeping in the same bed, and nobody thought anything of it.'
I have also earwigged conversations on buses and trains. Certainly, there is sniggering and bafflement over Michael's transparent fibbing about plastic surgery but the consensus is that he seems really nice, if a bit loopy.
The sleepovers aside, which sound a bad - but not intrinsically evil - idea we all know where the other grounds lie for concern about Michael's parenting.
First, the masks. I spent several weeks around Michael without once seeing his trademark surgical mask. One evening in London, when he came to Britain for his Oxford Union speech (which I helped him with a little) we were going out. The hotel was surrounded by fans. As we left his suite, Michael whipped out a black silk face mask. I looked quizzically at it and shrugged as if to ask 'What's that all about'? He winked, lifted the corner of the mask and whispered: 'Razzle-dazzle 'em.'
And that, I think, is the explanation for the masks and those weird burkas he has been putting on the kids for public occasions. For Michael - he of the tawdry Grecian urns at hundreds of thousands of dollars a pop - this is glamour, mystique, showbiz razzle-dazzle. Think Thriller, the video. He is teaching his children, whose privacy is invaded more than that of any British royal brat, to get used to it.
The same goes for the birth story, which even Michael's supporters found a little icky. For those who missed it: Michael told how he rushed Paris, his daughter, home from hospital so precipitately that she was still bloody from the birth, if not attached to her mother.
Again, the problem is that owing to his own odd upbringing, he thinks such a thing is glamorous and exciting. Then again, if he is so obviously fantasising about the plastic surgery, why do we believe him about the birth? I suspect it didn't quite happen as he describes it.
I take a revisionist view of the time last November that he dangled his new baby, Prince Michael ll, known as Blanket, from his Berlin hotel suite, the most famous balcony incident since Verona.
I suspected then that this was something of nothing, and Bashir's footage proved it. I am amazed that intelligent writers still refer to it as an authentic dangle. The film shows it was no stunt but, at worst, a momentary error.
Michael has an exceptionally athletic build and huge, strong hands. He is very confident in his physical strength. The crowd below was baying to see the baby, and he held him up at an open window, knowing how strong and capable he is. The baby wriggled awkwardly, Michael went 'whoops', and pulled Blanket safely back in before he did the child a mischief.
What we saw, crucially, from the footage filmed from inside the hotel room was that there was no balcony - merely a section of railing to stop guests falling out of the tall window.
Finally, there is the vibrating movement Michael made with his knee while bottle-feeding Blanket. This does worry me, although not as much as the green muslin Michael placed over the nipper's head. I imagine that was because the singer was already becoming deeply untrusting of the creepy Bashir.
What worried me about the outcry over the knee is that I used to make that movement with all my babies to calm them. Most of mine cried when I stopped, and giggled when I started again.
Parents make mistakes, often near-fatal ones, all the time without being investigated by social workers. If Bashir had been in Leeds in 1980, he would have caught me changing the bulb in a table lamp that was still plugged in. The phone went, and while my back was turned my stray baby daughter came within a millimetre of electrocution.
To me, Michael is level-headed. While other celebrities are gullible, for instance, when it comes to such cults as Scientology and Kabbalah, he has seen them off, despite high pressure, celeb-on-celeb salesmanship from both.
He is that strong in his convictions. Love her as he does, for example, he disagrees profoundly with his friend Elizabeth Taylor, the children's godmother, who believes the odd smack is all right.
Michael has his own views on what is weird. He regards it as disgusting that his friend Princess Diana's children were encouraged by their father to witness the gory aftermath of a fox hunt.
I saw Michael's amazing empathy with kids many times. He talks to them as though they are adults. He will not tolerate them interrupting an adult conversation, but is unusually attuned to young voices asking questions or requesting a drink, when most of us choose to pretend slightly deafness.
Abused children inevitably advertise their suffering with introversion, aggression, shyness, sullenness, distrustfulness and depression. But, neurotic, eccentric and downright flaky as their famous father is, I don't see any of the above in Prince and Paris.
Michael's is an eccentric domestic arrangement, but infinitely better, I suggest, than the average experienced by Hollywood kids. Moreover, he chooses exceptionally sensible, middle-aged women as nannies.
Nobody thinks anything of it when celebrity mothers exclude fathers from their children's lives. Liz Hurley has been lionised for doing so.
I would say Michael Jackson has given more thought to parenthood than most of us parents who don't suffer from the sobriquet, (*edited to >) Popstar.
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Jax Rules With An Iron Fist
Michael Jackson's young pals were the Neverland Boys Gone Wild, witness after witness has said at his trial, but it's a completely different story when it comes to the pop singer's own three kids.
Prince Michael I, 8, and Paris, 7, have been described as "polite" and "well-behaved"; their worst offense is said to be occasionally asking to stay up past their bedtime.
With his own brood, Jackson, 46, is anything but a no-rules Peter Pan, according to British journalist Jonathan Margolis. "He insists 'no means no,' but discipline must be administered without anger or yelling," wrote Margolis, who spent several months with the singer and his kids a few years ago.
And the youngest child, the balcony-dangled Prince Michael II, who's now 3, is being raised the same way.
But for many Neverland visitors, the word "no" didn't seem to exist. Maids and other ranch staffers, as well as a flight attendant, have described antics and rudeness that would curl Mr. Rogers' hair.
Especially bad was the now 15-year-old whose accusations are behind the current trial, several have testified.
The accuser, then 13, pelted mashed potatoes at a sleeping doctor aboard a charter flight and loudly scolded stewardess Cynthia Bell for serving him lukewarm chicken.
In contrast, Paris helped the stewardess bake cookies in the galley and Prince Michael I wandered the aisles or played games in his dad's four-seat booth.
Neverland ranch maid Kiki Fournier shocked the jury when she told how the accuser's chocolate-gobbling 12-year-old brother pulled a knife on her when she told him he was too young to cook. "Who wants a knife in your back? ... I didn't like it," she testified. The brothers also fired up Neverland's Ferris wheel without permission and were caught "throwing objects at the elephants and people" from on high, the defense says.
Other youthful Neverland visitors "crashed golf carts" or downed candy and rode the amusement rides until they puked, Fournier said.
And "Home Alone" star Macaulay Culkin poured soda and popcorn on Jackson's head from the projection booth in the Neverland theater, creating a huge, sticky mess.
Fournier bemoaned Neverland's "free-rein" atmosphere, which she said turned the boys into "very wild and sometimes destructive" monsters.
So how is it that his own three kids are described as angels?
Some say one reason is their no-nonsense chief governess, Grace Rwaramba.
When Jackson is working, playing, in court or indisposed because of his many ailments, Rwaramba is in charge — and runs a very tight ship.
The 38-year-old native of Rwanda is a prim, religious woman who has studied the Bible with Jackson's older sister Rebbie, a devout Jehovah's Witness, and attends the First African Methodist Episcopal Church when in Los Angeles.
Tall, attractive and short-haired, the nanny home schools the kids in a sunny classroom with tiny wooden desks and chairs on the second floor of Jackson's home. But her lessons go beyond the three R's.
"Grace has always made sure that Prince and Paris know they are very fortunate, and that there are children in the world who don't have food or shoes or beds to sleep in," said a source close to the Jackson family.
But she is said to take her cues on how to manage the children from Jackson himself.
The pop idol loathes spoiled Hollywood brats and doesn't want his kids to go sour, says biographer J. Randy Taraborrelli.
Still, he dresses the kids like old-time aristocrats — not logo-sporting, jeans-and-T-shirt commoners. Prince Michael I sometimes wears "Little Lord Fauntleroy" suits, and Paris dons velvet dresses with lacy trim and black Mary Jane shoes.
"Michael is very old school," said Taraborrelli. "Michael prefers a simpler time ... He likes that look."
His parenting methods are old-school too — even if his Neverland antics seem anything but.
"When the children are naughty or unkind to one another, he favors taking things away from them and making them stand in the corner," Margolis wrote.
When they play with friends, they are not allowed to refer to their toys as "mine," and Paris and Prince Michael I were "taught that the only reason to have money is to share its benefits with others," he wrote.
"It's a big deal to him. When he was a kid, he had all the money in the world, but he only got a modest weekly allowance from his mom. He was never spoiled," says Taraborrelli.
But in reaction to his own father's harsh discipline (the singer has said Joe Jackson used a leather belt to get his point across), Jackson will never lay a hand on his kids.
"He is that strong in his convictions. Love her as he does, for example, he disagrees profoundly with his friend Elizabeth Taylor, the children's godmother, who believes the odd smack is all right," Margolis wrote.
"Jackson may be neurotic, eccentric and downright flaky, but Prince and Paris are bright, confident, affectionate and considerate," he continued. "They say grace before meals, speak in sentences rather than monosyllabic American grunts and are like many children, from using rude language."
Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/04-10-2005/fron...8p-255464c.html
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haste aber schön geübt, Been Told....
war mal in so einem Nobel-Auktionshaus gegenüber dem Adlon, da hat man dann echt das Feeling und sieht es richtig vor sich, wie Michael da einkaufen würde
Allerdings denke ich, das er da, auch wenner sicher obzessiv einkauf-DA eine riesen Show war für die Kameras und Bashit -
gebe dir recht Corina
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genau, wer muss schon einkaufen- oder gar Bücher lesen? Was traut der sich blos? Also ob es nichts wichtigers zu tun gäbe....!
Immerhin warten die fans auf ein Album!
Eigentlich kann er Essen, Trinken und Schlafen auch gleich weglassen- und Kinder, ne der will sich doch nicht auch noch um die kümmern? Mensch Michael, unerhört! -
schön, das die welt die ursprungsforderung der frau Rowe da weglässt.
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boa, seit ihr wieder nett zueinander.... Glückwunsch zum Geburtstag, Scraemy
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naja das leigt daran, das du ihm vorher das Geld zugeteilt hast und jetzt macht das Grace....
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echt -findet ihr die Einrichtung kühl? Ich finde sie eher kuschlig -plüschig, vor allem das Sofa und das Schlafzimmer! Lustig find ich den alten Herrn am Anfang.
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in dem sie sich ums Sorgerecht bemüht? Und ihm so Angst macht?
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mensch mensch, hört sich ja toll an- nur schade , das da alle vor allen angst hatten

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Access Exclusive: Michael Jackson's Birthday Party!
Michael Jackson is celebrating his birthday Tuesday in an unnamed location in Europe, Access Hollywood has learned.Earlier Tuesday, Michael's kids threw him a surprise birthday party.
"He was totally shocked," Michael's spokeswoman, Raymone K. Bain, told Access Hollywood.
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wieso wußte ich da sdu das schreibst;-)
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auch von Mir lieber Michael

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war auch nicht inden Neuzigern sondern schon in den Achtzigern
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Die direkten Anwohner dort sind eher michaelfreundlich, haben wir die Erfahrung gemacht, als wir während des Prozesses da waren.
Natürlich gibs auch da andere- es fuhren auch mal welche da vor undbeschimpften uns und es zerstöten welche die hwerzen, die wir wegen des Urteil aufstellten. Aber Ottonormalnachbarn waren erstaunlich positiv eingestellt und lobten Michael auch wegen seines sozial Engagemants.
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Michael Jackson Tells Ex-Wife Debbie Rowe to Beat It
Friday, August 25, 2006
By Terry SchermerhornThe Life and Times of Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson was hit with a suit last month by his ex-wife Debbie Rowe, demanding more money -- now he's telling her to beat it.The Gloved One handed over $8 million in support and legal fees to Rowe in a settlement after their 1999 divorce. He got custody of their two children, Michael Jr., 9, and Paris, 8.
Rowe is now fighting for custody and wants Jackson to pay about $245,000 in new legal fees.
In his response, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court Tuesday but released Thursday, Jackson argues he has already paid her prior legal fees and the millions dictated by the settlement and charges that she broke a nondisclosure clause.
The case will be heard by Judge Robert Schnider on Sept. 5.