MJ wrongful death suit / kitkat gegen AEG

    — May. 14 1:34 AM EDT

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — The involuntary manslaughter conviction of Michael Jackson's doctor should not be overturned because there were no serious errors made by the judge overseeing his criminal case, a state attorney wrote in a filing urging a court to reject his appeal.

    Supervising Deputy Attorney General Victoria B. Wilson wrote in a response Monday to Conrad Murray's appeal that the former cardiologist's own lawyers forfeited several opportunities to object to a judge's rulings in the case.

    Wilson's filing also states jurors were presented overwhelming evidence that Murray's actions caused Jackson's death and his conviction should be upheld.

    Rulings cited by Murray's attorneys as legal errors by Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor were not mistakes, but rather kept the jury focused on whether the physician was responsible for Jackson's June 2009 death, Wilson wrote.

    Murray remains jailed after being sentenced to four years behind bars for providing Jackson with the anesthetic propofol, which the singer overdosed on in his bedroom.

    "The record shows that (Murray) was playing Russian roulette with Mr. Jackson's life over the course of several months," Wilson wrote.

    His attorney Valerie Wass appealed the conviction in April, arguing that Pastor erred by not allowing jurors to hear evidence about Jackson's troubled finances, his contract with concert giant AEG Live LLC, and by not sequestering the jury and allowing television coverage.

    Wilson wrote that none of those rulings were errors, or would warrant overturning Murray's conviction.

    "The argument is nothing more than the reflection of a criminal defendant who harbors no sense of responsibility or remorse for taking the life of a human being," Wilson wrote.

    "Of course I disagree," Wass said Monday night. "I believe there were serious errors made."

    She said Wilson's filing didn't address her argument that the prosecution theory about how Jackson overdosed was incorrect and how additional forensic testing could demonstrate that.

    Wilson's filing however noted that Murray's three-person legal team had access to evidence in the case for months before the trial, and in some cases conceded they hadn't thought to raise certain issues.

    Wass said she would raise what she said were omissions in Wilson's response in a subsequent filing.

    Jackson's finances and his relationship with AEG and Murray are the subject of a civil lawsuit being heard at a courthouse down the street from where Murray was convicted. The case brought by Jackson's mother against AEG claims the concert giant failed to properly investigate Murray before allowing him to serve as a tour doctor, and ignored signs of Jackson's poor health.

    AEG denies wrongdoing, and a deputy medical examiner who conducted Jackson's autopsy told jurors Monday that the pop singer appeared to be in excellent health when he died.

    Allowing the criminal jury to hear evidence of Jackson's massive debts and pending lawsuits would have been a distraction, and a mistake, Wilson wrote.

    Pastor was right to be concerned that presenting evidence of Jackson's financial troubles "would result in a salacious sideshow of Mr. Jackson's finances and lawsuits and run the risk of distracting the jury from its task of deciding (Murray's) guilt," she wrote.


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  • Jackson described as 'loopy' after doctor visits
    By ANTHONY McCARTNEY— May. 14 8:20 PM EDT

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson appeared "a little loopy" after visits with his longtime dermatologist and was considering using a teleprompter to help him perform some of his songs during his ill-fated comeback concerts, a choreographer who worked one-on-one with the pop superstar told a jury Tuesday.

    Travis Payne said he expressed concerns to the director of the "This Is It" shows that Jackson might be misusing prescription medications and was exhibiting troubling signs of insomnia, weight loss and paranoia in his final days.

    Some of the behavior occurred after Jackson's visits with dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein, who Payne believed was performing cosmetic treatments on the singer so he would be comfortable performing onstage again.

    "Sometimes in rehearsal, Michael would appear just a little loopy," Payne said, adding that the singer appeared to be "assisted or under the influence of something."

    Jackson's condition and missed rehearsals led to talk within the last 10 days of Jackson's life that AEG Live LLC, which was promoting "This Is It," might cancel the concert series.

    Payne was working for AEG and said he relayed his concerns about Jackson's possible prescription drug use to tour director Kenny Ortega. Jackson was struggling to get into shape for the shows, and Payne said his voice coach suggested using a voice track for fast-paced songs until the singer's stamina improved.

    He said Jackson wanted to use a teleprompter during the shows as "extra security," but it was an aid the performer had not used in his two previous tours.

    The choreographer testified for AEG, which is being sued by Jackson's mother. Katherine Jackson claims AEG failed to properly investigate Conrad Murray, the doctor who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for Jackson's death, and that the concert promoter also missed or ignored signs of Jackson's poor health.

    AEG denies it hired Murray and claims Jackson was private about medical treatments and hid the depths of his prescription drug addiction. Jackson died from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol, which Murray was giving him as a sleep aid.

    The company also did not hire the dermatologist, Klein.

    Klein is listed as a potential witness in the case, but it's unknown whether he will testify. His treatment of Jackson, which included Demerol shots, has been scrutinized both during Murray's 2011 criminal trial and the current civil case.

    Under cross examination, Payne acknowledged that some of Jackson's behavior, including grogginess, lethargy, insomnia and occasional paranoia, were possible symptoms of prescription drug abuse. He also said that despite testifying earlier that he worked with Jackson one-on-one five days a week, he couldn't recall how many rehearsals the singer actually attended.

    Payne's testimony was similar to two plaintiff's witnesses, dancer Alif Sankey and makeup artist Karen Faye, who testified last week that Jackson was in poor health and paranoid in the weeks before his death and they alerted Ortega about it.

    "You could sense that something was wrong, you just didn't know what it was?" plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked. Yes, Payne replied.

    The choreographer had remained composed throughout most of his testimony, occasionally smiling and politely trying to answer questions. But after several hours of testy exchanges with Panish, his voice quivered and he dabbed his eyes with a tissue.

    "I don't have a dog in this race," Payne said at one point. "I'm just trying to have a conversation with you and tell the truth."

    Anthony McCartney can be reached at http://twitter.com/mccartneyAP

  • Fortsetzung der Payne-Aussage: von unten nach oben

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 5m

    Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 19m
    I have to head back into court, this link will update soon additional elements of
    Muss zurück ins Gericht, einige Updates bald

    Payne says the second time was at the Staples Center, after a rehearsal and Jackson was leaving for the day. Both meetings were brief.
    Payne sagte das 2. Mal im Staples Center, nach einer Probe und Jackson ging für den Tag. Beide Treffen waren kurz.

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 5m
    Payne says the first time was at Jackson’s Carrolwood Drive home. The men passed on a stairway and Jackson introduced them briefly.
    Payne sah ihn zum ersten Mal in Jacksons Carrolwood Drive home. Sie standen auf einer Treppe und Jackson stellte ihn vor.

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 5m
    Stebbins Bina asked Payne whether he ever met Conrad Murray. The choreographer says he met Murray twice.
    Bina fragt ob Payne jemals Dr. Murray traf. Er sagt 2-Mal

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 6m
    Payne said Jackson didn’t want the physical therapist to work with him, thought it would be a violation of his personal space.
    Payne sagte Jackson wollte dies nicht, dachte es sei eine Verletzung seines persönl. Raums

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 6m
    The choreographer said at one point, he and others tried to bring in a top physical therapist who works with Olympic athletes to help MJ
    Der Choreographer sagte an einem Punkt wollten er und anderen einen Top-Phys. Experten einbringen der mit olymp. Athleten arbeitet um MJ zu helfen.

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 6m

    Payne told jury that at times Michael Jackson was lethargic and needed “support” to rehearse.
    Payne sagt, dass Michael manchmal lethargisch war und Unterstützung für die Proben benötigte

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 7m
    AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina began day by asking Payne about how Jackson seemed at rehearsals in June.
    AEG Anwalt Bina fragt wie Jackson bei den Proben im Juni war

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 7m
    Payne is wearing a black jacket with a gold emblem on the shoulders with the words “MJ” and a pair of wings. #Jackson
    Payne trägt eine schwarze Jacke mit goldenem Emblem auf den Schultern mit den Worten MJ und ein paar Flügel

    Anthony McCartney Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 7m
    Choreographer Travis Payne and Katherine Jackson spoke briefly in the courtroom before the jury came in. They seemed cordial.
    T. Payne sprach kurz mit K. Jackson im Gerichtsraum bevor die Jury kam. Sie schienen herzlich.

  • Weiter mit Payne (von unten nach oben)

    Payne said his understanding was that AEG was paying Dr. Murray's salary not Michael. The doctor was there 2 oversee many things, Payne said

    Payne verstand es so, dass es AEG war, die Murrays Gehalt zahlte, nicht Michael. Der Doktor war da, um viele Dinge zu überwachen.

    Another part of the same email chain, from Gongaware:
    "Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested..."... a face-to-face meeting w/ the doctor... We want to remind him that it's AEG not MJ who's paying his salary"
    We want him to understand what is expected of him. He has been dodging Frank so far."

    Weiterer Teil der email Kette von Gongaware:
    Frank und ich sprachen schon darüber und haben ein face-to-face meeting angestetzt mit dem Doktor. Wir wollen ihn daran erinnern, dass es AEG ist und nicht MJ, der sein Gehalt bezahlt. Wir wollen, dass er versteht, was wir von ihm erwarten. Bis jetzt hat er Frank abgewimmelt.

    ABC7 Court News ‏‪@ABC7Courts
    Bina shows an email from Ortega to Gongaware on Jun 14: "We're you aware that MJ's doctor didn't permit him to attend rehearsal yesterday?"
    "Are Randy and Frank aware of this? Please have them stay on top of his health situation."
    "Without invading MJ's privacy, it might be good idea to talk to his doctor to make sure everything MJ requires is in place
    "Who is responsible for MJ getting proper nourishment/vitamins/therapy everyday?"
    "Personally, I feel he should have a top Nutritionist and Physical Therapist working with him on a regular basis."
    "The demand in this guy are mentally and physically extraordinary! The show requirements exhaust our 20 year olds."
    "Please don't underestimate the need to stay on top of this."

    Bina zeigt eine email von Ortega an Gongaware: vom 14 Juni
    Wusstet ihr, dass Mjs Doctor ihm gestern nicht erlaubte, an den Proben teilzunehmen? Wissen Randy und Frank das? Bitte, lass sie immer über seine Gesundheits-Situation im Bilde sein. Ohne in Mjs Privatleben einzudringen, ist es vlt.eine gute Idee mit seinem Arzt zu sprechen, um sicher zu gehen, dass alles wonach MJ fragt da ist.
    Wer ist verantwortlich dafür, das MJ täglich angemessene Ernährung/Vitamine/Therapie bekommt?
    Persönlich denke ich, wir sollten einen Top Ernährungsberater und Physiotherapist haben, um regelmässig mit ihm zu arbeiten.
    Die Anforderungen an den Kerl sind mental und körperlich aussergewöhnlich! Die Show erschöpft unsere 20jährigen.
    Bitte bewertet es nicht unter, da dran zu bleiben“

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne said that in April, May, June, MJ missed 5 rehearsals with the whole group. He said one time Ortega sent MJ home.
    Im April, Mai und Juni versäumte MJ 5 Proben mit der ganzen Besatzung. Er sagt, einmal schickte Ortega MJ nach hause.

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    "There were times he was tired and had to be not convinced but supported," Payne recalls.
    Es gab Zeiten, da war er müde und er musste nicht überzeugt aber unterstützt werden.

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne said there was one day when MJ was cold. He thought the frustration had MJ on edge, but he took it that he was fighting a cold.
    Es gab einen Tag, als MJ kalt war. Er dachte, es wäre wegen der Frustration, aber er nahm es so, als ob er eine Erkältung hätte

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne told the jury he advised MJ he was looking thin and MJ said he was getting down to his fighting weight. "I had no reason to doubt him"
    Payne sagt, er bemerkte, dass MJ dünn aussah und MJ sagte, er wäre dabei, sein Kampfgewicht zu erreichen. "Ich hatte keinen Grund, daran zu zweifeln."

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne said Mr. Jackson explained to him he had Trouble sleeping. He's not sure how much weight MJ had lost.
    Payne sagt, er erklärte ihm, das er Probleme habe, zu schlafen. Er ist nicht sicher, wie viel Gewicht MJ verlor.

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne said he was concerned about MJ missing rehearsals. He didn't know Why he wasn't showing up, but MJ was also working on album and book
    Payne sagt, er war besorgt darüber, dass MJ Proben versäumte. Er wußte nicht, warum er nicht kam, aber MJ arbeitete auch einem Album und einem Buch

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Payne said AEG didn't want to pay what he regarded as his standard operating cost. Jackson said to pay him what him and his agent requested
    Payne sagt, AEG wollte nicht das zahlen, was er als Standart Kosten erwartete. Jackson sagte, sie sollten ihm zahlen, was er und sein Agent forderten.

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Travis Payne back on the stand. He's wearing gold wings on the side of his jacket sleeves with the initial "MJ" on them.
    Travis Payne ist wieder im Zeugenstand, hat eine Jacke mit Goldenen Flügeln und den Initialen MJ darin an.

    ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
    Day 11 of Jackson Family vs AEG trial is underway at a downtown LA courthouse. Katherine Jackson and Rebbie are present in the courtroom.

    Tag 11 Katherine und Rebbie sind im Gerichtssaal

  • http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05…wbiz/jackson-death-trial/

    Choreographer: AEG considered 'pulling the plug' on Michael Jackson's comeback
    By Alan Duke, CNN
    May 15, 2013

    Los Angeles (CNN) --
    AEG Live considered "pulling the plug" on Michael Jackson's comeback concerts 11 days before the pop icon died, the show's choreographer testified Tuesday.

    Travis Payne, who worked closely with Michael Jackson in his final days, earlier testified that in Jackson's last rehearsals before his death, he was "not at show standards but he was rehearsing, he was processing."

    Payne was called as a witness by AEG Live to counter Jackson witnesses who testified in the ongoing wrongful death trial that Michael Jackson was emaciated, paranoid and so ill they feared for his life as rehearsals continued until shortly before his death on June 25, 2009.

    The trial, in which Jackson's mother and three children contend AEG Live is liable in his death, is in its third week in a Los Angeles courtroom. The lawsuit accuses the concert promoter of negligently hiring Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.

    The Jacksons contend AEG Live executives ignored warning signs, including Jackson's weight loss, because they did not want to delay the premiere of the "This Is It" concerts set for July 2009.

    "It was 'We've got to get this together or the plug may be pulled,' " Payne testified under cross examination by a Jackson lawyer Tuesday.

    Jackson was having trouble learning some of his dances in the final weeks, he said.

    The jury saw an e-mail from show director Kenny Ortega saying Jackson had "been slow at grabbing hold of the work."

    He also asked that a teleprompter be placed near the stage to help him remember song lyrics, something Jackson had never used before during a concert, he said.

    An e-mail written by "This Is It" band director Michael Bearden to Ortega 11 days before Jackson's death was displayed in court.

    "MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time," Bearden wrote. "He can use the ballads to sing live and get his stamina back up, Once he's healthy enough and have more strength I have full confidence he can sing the majority of the show live. His voice sounds amazing right now, he needs to build it back up. I still need all big dance numbers to be in the system so we can concentrate on choreography."

    But Ortega sent Jackson home without performing at the next rehearsal three days later because he was ill.

    "I don't have a dog in this race, so I don't want to be painted as a guy who's trying to mask anything," Payne said when Jackson lawyer Brian Panish suggested he was downplaying concerns about Jackson's health in the days before he died.

    "Mr. Jackson just explained to me that he had trouble sleeping, that he was tired, and that satisfied me," Payne testified.

    He told Jackson, "You're looking thin," and Jackson responded, "Well, I'm getting down to my fighting weight," according to Payne, who added, "I didn't have a reason to doubt him."

    "Sometimes in rehearsal Michael would appear a little loopy, under the influence of something, but mostly when he would come to the rehearsals from the dermatologist," Payne testified. That happened two to four times in the weeks before his death, he said.

    "Michael was undergoing personal cosmetic procedures, so he could feel great and do a good job," Payne said.

    Medical records showed Jackson visited his Beverly Hills dermatologist nearly two dozen times in the two months before his death, receiving injections of the powerful painkiller Demerol.

    "Sometimes he was tired and lethargic and had to be, not convinced, but supported throughout rehearsals," Payne said.

    Payne, though, said Jackson's rehearsals the last two nights were "impressive" when he "was able to do chunks of the show."

    "He was not at show standards, but he was rehearsing, he was processing," he said. "I didn't expect him to be as if he was in front of a crowd. The last two days were pretty good."

    Was he ready to perform for an audience? Panish asked.

    "I thought he was on his way to the goals he had set for himself," Payne answered. "All I saw was improvement and getting closer to the goals."

    One of those goals was for Jackson to be able to sing all of his songs, while dancing, without the aid of pre-recorded tracks, Payne testified Monday. Jackson had relied on recorded vocal tracks in previous tours, but he didn't want to use them in London, he said.

    Michael's kids: Enlightened and loyal

    Payne was often inside Jackson's home rehearsing with him during his final weeks. He got an intimate view of what he called "the beauty" of Jackson's relationship with his three children.

    Payne saw "their loyalty to their father" and their father "enlightened them and taught them," he testified. "I was very proud to see Michael as such a loving father."

    His description of the close relationship Paris, 15, and Prince, 16, had with their father four years ago could foreshadow the significance of the children's testimony later in the trial.

    Paris, who was 11 at the time, was "a very retentive young lady who was very, very smart, very astute," Payne testified.

    "She had full knowledge of the day-to-day operations, from the time of lunch and what it was going to be, she was hands on -- far beyond her age," he said. "She had a lot of responsibility, which I think she welcomed.

    Payne said she was "the female of the house" and "a daddy's girl."

    "She really loved her father," he said. "At that time, she was coming to find out his global successes and presence, so she would wear her Michael Jackson T-shirt, headband and bag," he said.

    It was Paris who would bless the food when they were having lunch with their father at home, he said.

    "She was always the most vocal of the three children and was very concerned about many of the details of the house, was the temperature correct, what do you want to eat," Payne testified. "She just handled a lot for her young age."

    Jackson's relationship with son Prince, then 12, was "awesome," Payne said.

    "It was great to see how they interacted," he said. "Prince wants to be a director, so Michael would share conversations with him about that process and point out things during our rehearsals."

    Blanket, who was 7 his father died, liked to watch his father rehearsing his dances with Payne in the basement studio of their home, Payne said.

    "He was quiet, but always right there with his dad," he said.

    :sad :heart

  • ..weiter mit der Befragung von Travis Payne..nur noch die Übersetzung..nach und nach...nun auch in der Reihenfolge oben..nach unten zu lesen..


    Payne sagt, er hatte nicht viel Grund, Murray zu hinterfragen, weil er dachte, ein Arzt, der ausgewählt wurde , um mit MJ zu arbeiten sei erstklassig.
    Er sagt, er traf Murray im Haus in Carolwood. „ich ging die Treppe hoch, Murray ging hinunter, Michael hat uns vorgestellt.
    Payne kkam aus dem Erdgeschoss und ging zum mittleren Stockwerk. Das Studio war im Erdgeschoss. Payne sagt, er ging nie in das Obergeschoss des Hauses.

    Am 19 Juni sagt Payne, dass er glaubt jemanden mit Decken und einer Heizung gesehen zu haben. Sonst war niemand kalt. Er hatte Grippeähnliche Symptome.

    Am 23/24 Juni, zu dem wie MJ performte, dacht Payne es war im „Entstehen“, nicht wie der Showstandart, aber MJ war am proben.
    „Er machte den Prozess durch, ich erwarteten nicht von ihm, dass er so sei wie vor einem Publikum.“ erklärt Payne

    Payne sagt, die Performance war (Floating) flüssig/floss voran (?) (oder "war schwankend?), manche Tage waren gut, andere nicht. Die letzten beiden Tage waren gut.

    "Ich dachte, er sei auf dem Weg zu den Zielen, die er sich selbst gesetzt hatte.,“ sagt Payne der Jury. Für ihn stand es nicht in Frage, dass MJ in der Lage sei, zu performen.

    Payne beschreibt den Tag an dem MJ starb: Er war am Weg zu den Proben in Mjs Haus, und bekam einen Anruf von seiner Mutter,die sagte, sie hätte Berichte in den Nachrichten gesehen.
    Er hörte die Nachrichten im Radio, rief Stacy Walker im Staples Center an, sie sagte, sie würden Proben. Er sollte zum Staples kommen.
    „Wir waren optimistisch, das er noch komme.“ und sagt, sie hätten MJ zur Probe im Staples erwartet.


    Payne sagt, Ortega bekam einige Anrufe. Er erinnert sich, dass Kenny sagte „ sag mir etwas, damit ich sicher sein kann, dass du es bist und dass es wahr ist..“ Ich erinnere mich, dass Kenny in seinem Sitz zusammenbrach und weinte.

    Payne sah MJ nie Alkohol trinken oder Medikamente nehmen.
    Manchmal, in den Proben, erschien Michael etwas verrückt/daneben.(loopy)
    Er erinnert sich, dass Michael unter demEinfluss von irgendetwas war; es passierte meistens, wenn MJ zu den Proben kam nachdem er Dr. Klein besucht hatte.

    Payne sagt, er schien groggy zusein, manchmal morgens, er schrieb das dem Mangel an Schlaf zu.

    Payne erwähnt besonders einen Tag, wo es ein Treffen mit Andre Crouch und den Sängern gab. MJ schien etwas „weg“ zu sein.

    Payne sagt, er verstand es so, dass Mj verschiedene kosmetische Behandlungen hatte, damit er sich gut fühlte und einen guten Job machen konnte.

    Payne glaubte nicht, das MJ etwas verrückt (loopy) erschien, in Folge einer Abhängigkeit. Er sagt, von dem was er sah, war er nicht beunruhigt deshalb.

    Bina spielte Clips aus TII vom 4. Juni, die Aufnahmen von der green screen und dem Making Off vom Drill, wo Michael über die Moves sprach, und tanzte

    Payne sagte, die Idee dabei war, die Proben zu zeigen und wie sich alles zusammenfügte. Die Aufnahmen ansich seinen nicht verändert worden, aber es gab Editierungen

    Er sagt, sie wählten die besten Proben aus um sie in der Dokumentatiom zu integrieren. Er wollte ein paar Scenen neu drehen, aber es wurde nicht erlaubt.

    Brian Panish macht das Kreuzverhör mit Payne. Er fragt, ob MJ je eine ganze Show durchgeprobt habe.
    Payne sagte Nein.

    Payne kaufte eine Kopie seiner Befragung und sah sie an, bevor er zum Aussagen kam. Er sprach gestern mit Stacy Walker, aber nicht über ihre Aussage

    Paynes Eindruck war, dass Mj es liebte, Vater zu sein.
    Wenn wir probten, assen wir zusammen“, erinnert sich Payne und spricht über MJ und die drei Kinder.
    Payne fand, dass das Verhältnis zwischen Prinz und Mj bewundernswert sei, Michael war ein stolzer Vater, schön zu sehen, wie sie miteinander umgingen

    Prince wollte Regisseur werden und Michael machte ihn während der Proben auf Dinge aufmerksam, falls das mal sein Karriereweg sein würde.

    Über Paris sagt Payne, sie sei eine sehr beschützerische kleine Lady, clever, scharfsinnig, mit Kenntnissen über die Produktion, immer sehr bei der Sache.

    Payne sagt, Paris schien ihrem Alter voraus zu sein, sie war die Frau im Haus, übernahm viel Verantwortung, sie liebte das, sorgte für die Familie

    Paris fand gerade Dinge über Mjs weltweiten Erfolg heraus. Payne fügte hinzu, dass sie das Essen segnete bei den Mahlzeiten.

    Panish:“ war Paris „Daddys Girl“? Payne: „Ja, ich glaube schon.“

    Payne sagt, Paris war die gesprächigste der Kinder. Immer um die Dinge im Haus besorgt, sie fragte, was sie essen möchten und regelte einiges.

    Blanket war der ruhigste der 3, aber er war immer dicht dabei, im Probe-Raum kümmerte sich MJ um ihn und betreute ihn.

    Payne sagt, er wäre stolz, wenn MJ sein Vater gewesen wäre, und dass die Kinder einen unbeschreiblichen Verlust erlitten hätten.

    Payne hatte immer eine Video Kamera dabei und nahm die Proben auf. AEG nahm die Aufnahmen von Payne und gaben sie ihm nie zurück.

    Email von Randy an Paul (Gongaware): Stell sicher, die Aufnahmen von MJ in der roten Jacke herauszunehmen.... Er sieht viel zu dünn und skelettartig aus.“

    Payne sagt, er wußte nichts von dieser Email. Er sagt, MJ sah dünn aus, aber nicht skelettartig. Er weiß nicht, ob Paul/Randy Aufnahmen herausnahmen.

    Zu Mjs Verhältnis mit Katherine sagt Payne, dass es kein Geheimnis ist, dasMJ seine Mutter sehr liebte. Es sei so etwas was etwa jeder weiß.

    Karen Faye ist für das Make Up zuständig, Sie gestaltete das Make up, Sie war immer da, wenn Mj da war, sagt Payne. Faye und MJ kannten sich schon lange. Sie verbrachten viel private Zeit miteinander.

    Fay war besorg und frustriert darüber, wie MJ aussah. Sie ging recht aggressiv auf Payne zu. Payne sagte ihr, sie solle es Ortega berichten.

    Panish: Wer hätte sie (Payne) feuern können? AEG?

    Payne: Ich bin sicher.

    Payne wurde von AEG angestellt und bezahlt. Sein Vertrag war mit AEG.

    Payne sagt, er wollte für MJ einen Physio-Threapist, einen Ernährungsberater, Massage und dass seine Familie um ihn sei. Er sagt, das war ein anderes Szenario.
    „Es war das erste Mal , dass MJ mit AEG arbeitete,“ sagt Payne und dass er vorher immer von MJJ production angestellt worden sei.
    Es war das erste Mal, dass MJ nicht der Alleinproduzent der Show war.

    Panish fragt, ob er sich erinnere eine Textnachricht von Faye erhalten zu haben, in der er gefragt wurde, warum er nach Mjs Tod die Medien belüge.
    „Ich kann mich nicht erinnern, eine SMS von Faye erhalten zu haben, in der ich gefragt wurde,warum ich die Medien belüge:“ sagt Payne.

    Waren sie bestürzt/verärgert/durcheinander als MJ starb?
    Payne: ja

    Panish zeigt Bilder von Payne am Roten Teppich bei der Premiere von TII. Er sagt, er war glücklich über die Premiere.

    Payne sagt, er war nicht in die Details eingeweiht von dem, was von Murray erwartet wurde. AEG war Produzent und Veranstalter, aber MJ war der Star, und musste glücklich sein (im Sinn von zufrieden gestellt werden?)

    Payne wurde frustriert über den Anwalt der Kläger: „I Don't have a dog in this fight“ (mir ist der Ausgang von dem hier egal/ er ist unparteiisch...), und er fügt hinzu, dass er findet, dass Panish aggressiv sei.

    Panish fragt Payne, ob der Anwalt der Verteidigung ihm während des Essens versucht habe, ein paar Dokumente zu zeigen. Er sagt ja, er sah einen Teil seiner Vernehmung (Aussage)

    Panish konfrontiert Payne damit, dass er gestern gesagt habe, er sei mit MJ am 19 Mai im Tanzstudio gewesen, dass sie dort getanzt hätten.
    Panish: „Am 19 Mai war MJ nicht mit ihnen zusammen, oder?“
    Payne: Nein
    Panish: Er war beim Arzt
    Payne: Wenn sie das sagen, ich will mich nicht streiten.

    Payne (ich denke, er meint Panish...) sagt, dass bei MJ am 19 Mai in Kleins Praxis eine Zyste entfernt wurde, er konnte nicht mit Payne geprobt haben.
    Panish sagte dann, dass "MJ am 22 Juni auch nicht da war, oder?"
    Payne sagt, er weiß es nicht. Panish sagt, MJ sei in einer anderen Arztpraxis gewesen.

    „Wir sind Menschen, manchmal machen wir Fehler.“ sagt Payne, und sagt, er streite sich nicht darüber, ob MJ an diesen Tagen da war oder nicht.

    Payne sagt, MJ hatte immer etwas zu tun. „er musste zu den Proben kommen, das war Teil des Jobs“

    Payne sagt, MJ tat sich damit schwer, mit manchen Sachen zu beginnen. Email von Ortega an Gongaware: „Er war langsam, (er lies sich Zeit) bis er mit der Arbeit begann.“

    „Vor Juni fiel mir auf, das MJ dünner war, als ich ihn kannte“ sagt Payne, und bemerkt, er sah nie eine plötzliche Gewichtsveränderung bei MJ.

    Payne begann ohne unterzeichneten Vertrag zu arbeiten. Es war das erstemal, dass er von einer Firma – ausser MJJ Produktions – angestellt wurde. Er wurde von AEG bezahlt.
    Panish zeigt Payne den schriftlichen Vertrag. Er ist zwischen AEG und Payne, beginnt am 1. April, 2009. Im Vertrag steht, dass er (der Vertrag) nur von AEG gekündigt werden kann.

    Payne sagt, es wurde ein Bodydouble für MJ angefragt. Misha Gabriel war das Double, aber er war kleiner als er.

    Einige Szenen in der Doku sind mit dem Body Double, sagt Payne.

    Er sagt, im Culver Studio gab es einen Stunt bei SC, bei dem Misha durch die Glasplatte sprang

    Payne sagt, MJ war die meiste Zeit bei den Proben anwesend. Er sagte „es war keine große Sache“

    Panish zeigte eine Mail vom Bandleader: „MJ ist nicht genug in Form um seine Sachen Live zu singen und dazu gleichzeitig zu tanzen. Wenn er erstmal gesund genug ist, und kräftiger, bin ich voller Zuversicht, dass er den größten Teil der Show live singen kann. Seine Stimme klingt jetzt sehr beeindruckend, er muss nur wieder dahin kommen (needs to bring it back up)“

    Payne wußte davon, das AEG überlegte Mitte Juni den Stecker der Show zu ziehen. Er sagte, am 19 Juni sah MJ erschöpft und paranoid aus.

    Payne war am 20 Juni in Mjs Haus. Ihm war kalt und er musste das Feuer im Kamin anzünden und seine Hände und Füsse reiben, um sich warm zu bekommen.

    Panish zeigt ein Bild von MJ, auf dem er am 24 Juni Thriller probt. Payne sagt, MJ improvisierte, war aber nicht sehr gut.

    Payne erinnert sich an einen Vorfall, bei dem MJ in eine Decke gehüllt war und vor einer Heizung sass.

    Panish: Hatte um den 20 Juni herum Ortega die Ansicht, dass MJ hierfür nicht bereit war?

    Payne: Ja

    Payne sagt, MJ war nicht bereit, es war nicht Mj wie er ihn kannte. Er starb 4 Tage später. Aber er erkannte nichts, was ihn am 23/24 Juni alarmierte.

    Panish: Haben sie gesehen, dass auf MJ Druck gemacht wurde, damit alles fertig würde, in diesen letzen Tagen?

    Payne: Ja

    Payne sagt, er konnte sehen, dass etwas falsch lief, wusste aber nicht was.

    Payne sagt, er habe MJ nie in dem Zustand gesehen, wie er sm 19 Juni war. Die beiden letzten Tage seien besser gewesen.

    Payne weint als er sagt, er habe nie an MJ gezweifelt, und dass es ein Teil seiner Verantwortung war, ihn dahin zubekommen, für die Tour bereit zu machen.

    Bina re-direct: Denken sie, sie hätten ihn soweit bekommen können?

    Payne: Absolut.
    Payne sagt, MJ war zu einem signifikanten Teil der Probetage anwesend

    Payne sprach mit MJ nie über Ärzte und persönliche Angelegenheiten. Payne und Faye waren auf professioneller Ebene bekannt, aber keine Freunde.

    „Die Produktion meinte, er käme nicht oft genug zu den Proben, und das war für einige des Stabs frustrierend“ sagt Payne.

    Zu Gongawares Email darüber, was man von Murray erwartet, sagt Payne das wohl die Unregelmässigkeiten von MJ (verpasste Proben) ein Gespräch bedurften

    Payne sagt, er dachte, Murray sei dort, um auf seinen Patient zu achten, sicher zustellen, dass die richtige Ernährung da war, um ihn für die Show bereit zu machen.

    Payne sagt, Jermaine war auf der Premiere von TII – Bina zeigt ein Foto wo Payne und Jermaine Hände schütteln.

    Payne weint und sagt, er hätte soviel durchgemacht und dachte, der schlimme Teil läge hinter ihnen. Er war erleichtert.
    Er sagt, weder Katherine noch die Kids seien bei der Premiere von TII gewesen.

    Im Re-Cross sagt Panish, dass keiner von Mjs Brüdern Teil dieser Klage sei.

    Payne sagt, er habe einmal gesehen, dass es MJ kalt war und er hätte seine Hände berührt, um es zu fühlen, ein anderes mal, sah er MJ im Staples mit einer Decke und Heizung.
    Payne sagt, er dachte Murray sei für Ernährung und alles, was der Künstler zur Erholung brauche, zuständig.

    Zu Gongawares Email sagt er, er verstehe es so, dass Mj angemessene Nahrung, Pflege Massage brauche
    Payne dachte, der Arzt sei zuständig, dass es dem Star gut gehe und man erfolgreiche Proben abhalten könne.

    Payne beendete die Befragung. Donnerstag geht es weiter. Mittwoch (heute) hat einer der Geschworenen eine Beerdigung.

    ...danke maya, mjforever :blumen

  • ^und wieder sag ich - er ist schmal, jepp,
    und bei fotos, wo das gesicht gut zu sehn is, fällt es am meisten auf.
    ABER - er sieht dennoch nicht aus, als wäre er fix und fertisch, auf drogen, neben seinen schuhen, und halb tot. :nee
    und man hört/sieht immer wieder, mit wieviel ehrgeiz und offensichtlich auch spass er dabei war.
    sicher war der druck gross, davon ist auszugehn.
    aber vielleicht war das problem nicht dass es 50 shows werden sollten,
    sondern viel eher, dass es dann so schnell gehen sollte.
    announcement bis show waren ja doch grade nur 3 monate, oder?
    und wenn man bedenkt, was ja alles dahinter steckt, angefangen mit der idee, bis zu den klamotten für tänzer/mj, bühnenbauten, choreos etc etc...wo mike ja ÜBERALL mit involviert war...
    das alles zu schaffen, bis zum letzten nadelstich und licht und kostümproben,
    um zur 1. show alles perfekt zu haben....
    das ist für mein empfinden der weit grössere druck.
    eben grade, weil mike wohl immer grösser, und immer mehr 'was besonderes' wollte, nicht ne show wie sie jeder abliefert.
    er wollte, dass die leute grosse augen machen, dass man nur 'aaahhh's' und ooohhhh's' hörte. er wollte alle faszinieren und verzaubern.
    gesanglich/tänzerisch glaube ich, hätte ers geschafft.
    (sofern man davon ausgeht, dass sein zustand sich nicht verschlechtert hätte). er hätte die show schon so angelegt, dass er seine 'ruhepausen' zwischen schnelleren nummern gehabt hätte.
    aber hätte, wäre, wenn - hilft alles nix.
    man hat ihn totgespritzt....und keiner will verantwortung übernehmen,
    nichtmal der, der 'den abzug betätigte'.

    sorry, aber das reisst mich emotional immer wieder runter... :sad

  • @Ivy_4MJ 7m

    BTW AEG did not day "this will get ugly" in their opening statements



    So it was Jacksons attorney who said AEG will say bad things and AEG attorney replied yes we will, it's true because we were sued.

  • ja die liebe gute Mutti ist so was von Geldgeil die geht im wahrsten sinne über Leichen.Damit sie noch mehr geld den ZJ in den hals stecken kann. Geld das Mj mit viel fleiß und schmerz verdient hat

  • Jackson trial: Dr. Murray's salary was on AEG's books

    By Corina Knoll
    May 16, 2013, 6:46 p.m.

    An AEG finance executive Thursday verified a 2009 company budget that allotted $300,000 to be paid to Dr. Conrad Murray for two months of caring for Michael Jackson.

    Julie Hollander, vice president/controller of event operations for AEG Live, testified in the wrongful death trial that Murray’s salary of $150,000 each for the months of May and June that year was included in a budget approved by executive Paul Gongaware.

    Gongaware is one of the defendants in the civil suit filed against the entertainment company by Jackson’s mother and three children who allege that AEG hired and controlled Murray. Murray treated Jackson as he was preparing for "This Is It,” a series of comeback concerts to be held in London, and gave the singer a fatal dose of propofol.

    The case, which could be worth millions, or even billions to Jackson’s family, could turn on whether the jury believes Murray took his marching orders from Murray or Jackson himself.

    Hollander was responsible for overseeing the books and the general ledger of all transactions related to “This Is It,” but said it was AEG executive Timm Woolley who actually created and managed the budget and made sure people got paid.

    Woolley advised her that Murray was “engaged at the request of the artist,” Hollander said, and added that the budgets were ultimately approved by Gongaware.

    Hollander called the doctor’s contract with AEG a “draft” because, although it was signed by Murray, neither Jackson nor AEG had signed it.

    “If Michael Jackson didn’t die and AEG signed, then AEG would owe the money, right?” Brian Panish, the Jackson family’s attorney, asked.

    “If all parties signed it would have been a fully executed contract, yes, and I would have to — if the costs were approved — it would be no basis for me to say I’m not going to pay that,” Hollander said.

    She said, however, that there were situations where contracts were signed after Jackson’s death because “due to the abrupt end of the tour, deals were renegotiated.”

    Hollander verified a document created May 16, 2009, that listed dozens of changes to the “This Is It” budget. Murray was listed as item 29.

    “MJ wishes to have a permanent physician available on call throughout the pre-tour period on operational period,” the document said. “There are 2 months at $150,000 newly budgeted.”

    Hollander said she spoke with Woolley about the inclusion of Murray on the budget and to AEG’s in-house attorney Shawn Trell about conditions under which the doctor would be paid.

    On May 18, 2009, Hollander wrote an email to several executives asking for information that would help give AEG owner Philip Anschutz an idea of the upcoming tour profits.

    “We are in the process of quickly pulling together an urgent re-forecast for Mr. Anschutz and need the latest and greatest on MJ,” her email read. “I recall that you were working on an update. Is it ready for consumption? I need something by tomorrow at the latest.… Once the numbers are in, I need direction from you with respect to the split between UK and US.”

    Panish asked Hollander, “They weren’t asking you how the rehearsals were going, were they?”


    “They wanted to know how much money would be made for the U.S. and how much money would be made for the U.K., correct?”



  • Attorney agrees to hand over emails from Jackson's manager

    By Corina Knoll
    May 16, 2013, 1:15 p.m.

    Emails written by Michael Jackson’s longtime manager will be turned over to the attorneys involved in an ongoing wrongful death case filed by the pop singer’s mother and his three children.

    A Pennsylvania attorney for the widow of manager Frank DiLeo said Thursday that he would turn over emails that could be relevant to the case, which accuses entertainment behemoth AEG of responsibility for the pop singer’s death in 2009.

    The attorney, David Regoli, who spoke via telephone in a downtown Los Angeles courtroom, said he had made a copy of DiLeo’s email inbox while he was doing work for the manager’s estate. DiLeo died in 2011.

    Attorneys for Jackson’s mother and three children said they have a court order for those emails and believe they could include exchanges between DiLeo and AEG executives. Their wrongful death suit alleges that AEG hired and controlled Dr. Conrad Murray, who administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to the singer as he was preparing for a series of comeback concerts.

    Regoli estimated that the digital file was about two gigabytes in size and he said he would make a log of the emails that would be pertinent to the trial. He is expected to give both the plaintiffs and the defense an update of his progress next week.

    DiLeo, who died in 2011, was brought up last week in dramatic testimony given by Jackson’s hair and makeup artist.

    Karen Faye said that during Jackson’s final days she tried to warn DiLeo about the singer’s health.

    “Frank was saying pretty much, ‘I got it under control, don’t worry about it,’ ” Faye testified Friday.

    “I said, ‘But he’s losing weight rapidly.’ … I said, ‘Why don’t you ask [costume designer] Michael Bush to verify taking in his pants and how much weight he’s actually losing?’ ”

    Faye said DiLeo went to speak to Bush and she overheard the manager say, “Get him a bucket of chicken.”

    “It was such a cold response,” she said. “I mean, it broke my heart.”

    Jackson died soon afterward. Murray is now serving jail time for involuntary manslaughter.


  • Da geb ich Dir voll und ganz recht, Petra! Michael war ja auch immer schon schmal. Er ist nun mal zierlich und war nie der Typ, der dicke Muskeln aufgebaut hat. Aber dass er am Ende seines Lebens angelangt wäre, so sieht er absolut nicht aus.

    Michael hatte ja nur diese paar Monate. Man muss sich das mal vorstellen, wie lange selbst wesentlich kleinere und unbedeutendere Shows dauern, bis diese "auftrittsreif" sind. Oft werden Klamotten fertig gekauft, Musik am PC ein bisschen geschnitten... hab das alles selbst mitgemacht in meiner aktiven Tanzzeit. Bei Michael wurde für jeden Tänzer eigene Kostüme genäht, für Michael nochmal ganz andere Kostüme, das ganze Bühnenbild, die Musik wurde teilweise neu abgemischt und musste von den Musikern einstudiert werden.... Michael überließ nichts dem Zufall. Und dann hat er nur so wenig Zeit - ein PERFEKTIONIST... das ist schwierig.

    Mich nervt das immer, wenn viele sagen, er sah bei TII so schlimm oder so abgemagert aus. Das stimmt so einfach nicht. Klar war er dünn, aber wie soll denn bei so viel Stress was an ihm hängenbleiben? Sicher werden wir im Laufe dieses Prozesses noch mehr unangenehme Dinge erfahren.

    Mich wundert die kalte Reaktion von DiLeo schon sehr. Wie kann ihm denn das alles so egal gewesen sein? Manchmal verstehe ich die Welt nicht mehr! Vielleicht hat DiLeo auch nur so kalt reagiert, weil er eh nix machen konnte, weil er nicht für Michael nicht gearbeitet hat... Es verletzt mich schon sehr, wenn ich so eine Reaktion von einem Menschen erfahre, der immer so getan hat, als hätte er Michael wie einen Sohn oder Bruder geliebt. :depri

  • Michael Jackson trial: Conrad Murray's payment demands 'outrageous'

    Michael Jackson-Prozess: Conrad Murray's Bezahlungs-Ansprüche 'unverschämt'
    By Jeff Gottlieb
    May 17, 2013, 12:37 p.m.

    A professional concert tour director testified Friday in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial that a doctor's demand for $5 million to serve as the singer's tour physician "raised a red flag."

    Marty Hom, who has spent 25 to 30 years as a tour director and tour manager, said that Dr. Conrad Murray's original demand was "outrageous." Murray, a cardiologist who closed his practice to serve Jackson, eventually agreed to work for $150,000 a month.

    Hom, who testified as an expert witness, also said he would never tell a director he had checked out a doctor if he hadn’t, a reference to claims by the Jackson family about an AEG executive.

    A portion of Hom's March 25 video deposition was played to the jury in the lawsuit brought by Jackson's mother and three children. They contend that entertainment giant AEG negligently hired and supervised Murray, who administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to the singer to combat his insomnia. AEG says that Jackson hired Murray and that any payments the company was supposed to make to the doctor were advances to the singer.

    Anschutz Entertainment Group had deposed Hom as an expert witness, paying him $500 a hour. In an unusual move, the Jacksons' attorneys played about 45 minutes of the deposition, taken under oath. Brian Panish, one of the family's lawyers, said he played the testimony to ensure the jury heard it, even if AEG did not call Hom during the trial.

    Hom also testified he had never been on a tour where the artist brought a doctor along, although he later said doctors toured with the Rolling Stones and Blink 182, but Hom did not work with them.

    Much of Hom's testimony centered on the relationship between a tour manager, performer and doctor. A key question in the lawsuit is whether Murray, who was in desperate financial straits, was more concerned with Jackson's interests or AEG's.

    Hom said it was not appropriate for the tour manager or promoter to inject themselves into the doctor-patient relationship.

    Asked if it would be OK for someone to speak to the performer's doctor without the artist present, he answered, "I thought it was the doctor's responsibility to say no."

    He said he knew of no instance where a promoter or producer had a private conversation with the artist's doctor.

    He testified that when performers were ill, "my natural instinct is to go to that doctor and ask him, 'Is that dancer going or musician going to be able to make that show in a week?”

    Hom also testified that he knew of no instance where a promoter or tour manager paid the performer's manager.

    Panish said outside court that he will later introduce evidence that AEG was paying Jackson's managers, which could be a conflict of interest.


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