Thriller 25

^ Ich wage aber zu behaupten, dass man mit so einer Sache niemals abschließen kann!

das ist keine sache mit der man abschliesst erst recht nicht ohne therapie und nicht nach zwei drei jahren!

Zitat von Dirty Diana 298

das ist keine sache mit der man abschliesst erst recht nicht ohne therapie und nicht nach zwei drei jahren!

Sagt wer, dein psychologisches Selbstverständnis?
Immer wieder eine Freude sowas zu lesen.

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^ Ich wage aber zu behaupten, dass man mit so einer Sache niemals abschließen kann!

Dann ist doch ne Aussage!
Sicherlich kann man mit so einer Sache nicht einfach abschließen, habe ich übrings auch nie behauptet, doch man kann sie verarbieten und seine Konsequenzen draus ziehen. Und ich bin mir sicher das Mike ausreichend Möglichkeiten hat.

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was macht es, wenn er gavin verzeihen kann, aber er nicht mehr derselbe ist und den größten knacks seines lebens wegbekommen hat und seine persönlichkeit, sein galube und sein vertrauen, seine persönlichkeit gestorben sind, durch das was er mitmachen musste und mittlerweile einer leck mich am arsch einstellung gewichen sind ,den michael den wir kennen gibt es nicht mehr und ich wage zu behaupten wird es nicht mehr geben und das ist das eigentliche problem warum wir vlt nichts hören von ihm!

Und ich gehe jeden Tag in den Keller, da muss ich nichts mehr schwarz malen, da ist es schon dunkel!!

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Dann wäre das kein verzeihen! Verzeihen bedeutet mit der Sache abschließen.

So siehts aus, und ich bin mir sicher das er das kann.

bla bla bla ,meint doch was ihr wollt

Also entweder findet der Mike zur seiner alten Kraft zurück, zumindest so weit, dass er noch einmal ein Comeback starten kann und damit auch erfolgreich ist oder er wird es halt nicht schaffen, was dann natürlich sehr schade wäre, aber da kann man halt nix machen...
Aber vllt gehört das alles ja wirklich mit zu seinem Comeback-Plan, wie Prometheus schon geschrieben hat, also warten wir's einfach ma ab...

Zitat von Dirty Diana 298

bla bla bla ,meint doch was ihr wollt

Produktiver gings wohl nicht?

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Also entweder findet der Mike zur seiner alten Kraft zurück, zumindest so weit, dass er noch einmal ein Comeback starten kann und damit auch erfolgreich ist oder er wird es halt nicht schaffen, was dann natürlich sehr schade wäre, aber da kann man halt nix machen...

Treffender kann man die Gesamtsituation wohl nicht beschreiben!

@Promotheus:

Sag ma, ich habe dich hier noch nie gesehen, wieso posteste jetzt auf einma so oft und bist immer on?
Ich find's aber gut, dass sich nu auch mal andere an den Themen und Diskussionen beteiligen und man nich imma das selbe zu lesen bekommt!

Zitat von eStyle

@Promotheus:

Sag ma, ich habe dich hier noch nie gesehen, wieso posteste jetzt auf einma so oft und bist immer on?
Ich find's aber gut, dass sich nu auch mal andere an den Themen und Diskussionen beteiligen und man nich imma das selbe zu lesen bekommt!

Nur mal so zur Randinformation: Prometheus.

Mich gibts schon ewig und drei Tage, nur hatte ich lange Zeit keinen eigenen Internetanschluss. Musst nur auf mein Registrierungsdatum schauen + meine Beitragszahl, dann erklärt sich das automatisch.

Zu deinem letzten Satz: Danke für die .

Zitat von Prometheus

Nur mal so zur Randinformation: Prometheus.

Mich gibts schon ewig und drei Tage, nur hatte ich lange Zeit keinen eigenen Internetanschluss. Musst nur auf mein Registrierungsdatum schauen + meine Beitragszahl, dann erklärt sich das automatisch.

Zu deinem letzten Satz: Danke für die .

Sorry PromEtheus!
Das heißt also ab jetzt werden wir dich hier öfters sehen?

Zitat von eStyle

Sorry PromEtheus!
Das heißt also ab jetzt werden wir dich hier öfters sehen?

Dir sei verziehen.

Ich bin genaugenommen seit mitte März dauerhaft on und für die Zukunft werde ich das auch nur minimal ändern.

hier bleibts beim thema, und wird nicht der mist weitergetragen aus anderen threads.
ich bitte darum das einzuhalten, ansonsten werde ich die angekündigten massnahmen treffen.

Michael Jackson changed the music industry the way Elvis, Beatles did before him

MJ’s ‘Thriller’ still a classic after 25 years
updated 11:22 a.m. ET April 24, 2008

What Michael Jackson has become hasn’t changed what he was 25 years ago, when he was riding the greatest album ever made and making the music video that would change forever the way we thought about both.

It was one of those defining moments that come along once in a generation, and those who witnessed it when they were young and impressionable will never forget. Elvis Presley had done that when he gyrated his pelvis and belted out his blues-influenced rock a half century ago. A generation later, it was the Beatles ushering in another deathless sound.

And then it was 1983, and the man who burned his image and his music into young and febrile minds was Michael Jackson. If you were young then, the “Thriller” video and Jackson’s music became part of your DNA.

But even if you were older, you knew when you turned on MTV and saw Jackson’s breathtaking performance that you were seeing something that had never been seen before.

Many would say that the likes of “Thriller” hasn’t been seen since, either.

Not just another Jackson. Jackson was no musical ingénue. He’d practically been born with a microphone in his mouth , a cute, button-nosed boy with a voice so high and clear and penetrating it seemed on loan from heaven. He was just 11 when he debuted, and he was surrounded by his singing siblings, the Jackson 5. But as good as that group was, he was the star of the show.

He had emerged from the family shadow in 1979 with the release of his first album, “Off the Wall,” the first ever to contribute four singles to the Top 10 charts. The album would sell 20 million copies over the years, but Jackson and his co-producer Quincy Jones felt they could do better.

The vehicle that Jackson would use hadn’t even been born yet, but when MTV debuted on the burgeoning cable menu in 1981, he saw the potential of a new medium in ways that no one else did.

The album “Thriller” was released late in 1982 to breathless reviews for the pioneering work of the 24-year-old superstar.

“Rather than reheating ‘Off the Wall’s’ agreeably mindless funk, Jackson has cooked up a zesty LP whose up-tempo workouts don't obscure its harrowing, dark messages,” wrote Rolling Stone. “Jackson's new attitude gives ‘Thriller’ a deeper, if less visceral, emotional urgency than any of his previous work, and marks another watershed in the creative development of this prodigiously talented performer.”

Even NPR checked in with a review that included this declaration: “Where lesser artists need a string section or a lusty blast from a synthesizer, Jackson need only sing to convey deep, heartfelt emotion.”

“Thriller” would become the best-selling album of original music ever recorded, a title it holds to this day. It remained atop the charts for an incredible 37 weeks. There were nine tracks on the record and seven of them went Top 10, including “Thriller,” “Beat It” and “Billie Jean.”

A watershed moment for the industry

But the best was yet to come. MTV played mostly music videos in those early days, but no one had yet considered the possibility of merging filmmaking and music in the way that Jackson envisioned. With co-producer Jones, Jackson enlisted John Landis, the brilliant writer/director whose credits at the time included “Kentucky Fried Movie,” “Animal House,” “The Blues Brothers” and “American Werewolf in London” to direct what many believe remains the greatest music video ever.

The video would run 14 minutes, essentially a miniature feature film that cost $800,000 to make — an astonishing figure at the time. Vincent Price, the master of the horror movie, was brought in to do a sinister rap under the music.

“Thriller” is a horror movie that turns out to be a dream that turns out to be maybe not a dream after all. It begins with a young couple — apparently of high school age — walking late at night. Jackson, whose skin was not yet bleached and whose features still resembled a normal human being’s, wears a wide-shouldered, red leather jacket, red leather pants and his trademark white socks. His date, Ola Ray, wears tight, calf-length jeans and a sweater straight out of “Grease.”

The fun starts with the full moon rising and Jackson telling Ray, “I’m not like other guys.”

The line has been repeated often over the years, the irony growing with each new episode in his life. “It’s close to midnight. Something evil’s lurking in the dark,” he warns her.

The something is him. Landis did a takeoff of “American Werewolf in London” to transform Jackson into something resembling more a werecat than a werewolf. Ray spends a lot of the video running and shrieking, pursued first by the yellow-eyed feline and then by an army of zombies. Like all self-respecting undead, the zombies can barely put one foot in front of the other when walking, but man, can they dance.

Along the way, we learn that Jackson and Ray are watching the action in a movie, and then they’re not. Finally, she awakes from a dream, but it ends with Jackson’s eyes flashing yellow feline slits.

You watched it for the brilliant music. Kids danced in front of their televisions when Mom and Dad weren’t looking, trying to capture even a fraction of Jackson’s grace and power. And through it all was that heart-stopping plot.

The video sold more than a million copies, and every year Lexington, Ky., turns its downtown over to a reenactment of the video performed by its fans-for-life.

As Mike Joseph wrote for PopMatters.com: “Twenty-five years after ‘Thriller’s’ original release, amidst everything that’s gone on in Michael Jackson’s crazy, insane, screwed-up life, this album still makes people smile, the grooves still make people dance, and the videos still make people stop and stare in awe. This, folks, is where the mere pop stars get separated from the legends. Times may change, music may change, but ‘Thriller’ is one of those few iconic records whose influence seems to be prevalent no matter the climate.”

See the video:

'Thriller' turns 25 - AOL Video

April 24th: John Landis About Making Thriller Video

In preparation of the special Thriller Night at the Tribeca Film Festival - director John Landis gave an interview to Metromix New York about what it was like making one of the best videos ever:

How did the whole project get off the ground?

Well, Michael Jackson called me out of the blue. He had seen Rick Baker's work, transforming a man to a wolf in An American Werewolf in London. Michael was fascinated by the transformation and said he wanted to make a film in which he turned into a monster onscreen. Rock videos at that time were commonly made to sell records, and I wasn't interested in that. But I was definitely interested in doing a theatrical short, and because [Michael] was so big, we knew there'd be interest in showing it. And it was a chance to do a dance number with really good dancers and shoot it correctly.

Was it difficult to get the financial backing for it?

We figured it would cost half a million, which was a lot since people were spending fifty to seventy thousand back then. CBS and Sony video told us to go **** ourselves. There were already two successful videos that had been made [from the album]:Beat it and Billie Jean. Plus, the album was already No. 1 and had sold more records than any other in history when the video premiered. So Michael said, "Well, I'll pay for it", and I said, "Absolutely not". He was still living with his parents then. He said, "Why don't you film us making it? We can do 'The Making of Thriller' and that would be 45 minutes and the actual video would be 15, and it could be an hour [program] on Showtime". When MTV heard we were going to show it on Showtime first, then they wanted it and they gave us money.

And the rest is history.

Well, it played [as a short] with "Fantasia" for two weeks in L.A. and was such a sensation. But then CBS fucked me because they gave the video free to every TV station in the world. Once "Thriller" got to MTV and was on international TV, like, 24 hours a day, the album went back to No. 1 and doubled its sales. It totally established MTV, and established the power of the medium.

Then I got a call from Austin Furst at Vestron who said, "I'd like to put 'Thriller' and 'The Making of Thriller' on VHS for home video". I said, "It's on TV for free. Who'd buy it?" He said, "I intend to put it out on sell-through for $24.95". I thought, nobody's going to buy this, but over a million sold. It created the home-video business. [...]

What's coming up for you now?

I have a book coming out, called "John Landis", by Italian author Giulia D'Agnolo Vallan. It has interviews and articles by many collaborators of mine. We'll be doing two book signings in New York. Also, I'm in the cutting room right now. I was one [of several directors] to shoot a show for NBC called "Fear Itself". It's like the son of "Family", which I did for the "Masters of Horror" series. I'm most famous for my comedies-I think it's a riot that I am a "master of horror".

MICHAEL JACKSON France : MJ data bank France :::

Michael Jackson - Thriller Celebrated With Tribeca Zombie Disco

25/04/2008 16:25

The 25th anniversary of MICHAEL JACKSON movie THRILLER was celebrated at New York's Tribeca Film Festival on Thursday (24Apr08), with 'the world's largest zombie disco'.

Director John Landis was on hand at a special free outdoor screening of the film at Manhattan's World Financial Center.

Organisers of the festival invited fans to dress as characters from the 1983 music video, and even laid on face painting stations to help hundreds of wannabe zombies look the part.

MICHAEL JACKSON - THRILLER CELEBRATED WITH TRIBECA ZOMBIE DISCO

“World’s Largest Zombie Disco” Marks 25th Anniversary of “Thriller” Video in NYC

Weisch nicht ob ihr das kennt aber ich find es 1.)super cool wäre gern bei der Party in New York dabei gewesen!!!Aber was der ältere Herr der sitzt mit dem Glow sagt ist ja hertig echt geil So bitteschön:

Ps.Ich hoffe das liest ein Moderator von hier und macht mir das ding auf das meine Beiträge gleich angenommen werden,ich sag eh nichts mehr zu Thema K.

YouTube - New York Magazine: Dancing Zombies at 'Thriller''s 25th

New York, NY (AHN) -- Twenty-five years after the groundbreaking release of Micheal Jackson's Thriller video, an estimated 2000 people gathered at the Tribeca Film Festival recently in Manhattan to pay homage to the video that became a staple of pop culture worldwide.

The video and song have recently been brought back into the mainstream in dance sequences in commercials, movies, and by a popular Youtube video that shows 1,500 inmates in the Cebu Provincial Detention and Rehabilitation Center (CPDRC) in the Philippines dancing in unison to the choreography in the video; It is their exercise routine.

Vincent Paterson was a long time choreographer for Micheal Jackson. He said in a televised interview that Thriller "is the Swan Lake of the pop world. Everybody learns it. Everybody does it."

The video, which was released in 1983, is 14 minutes long, and was ground breaking in its combining film making with music. It won the People's Choice Award in 1984. Many argue that there has never been a music video as influential as Thriller has been.
Happy 25th Birthday To Michael Jackson's Groundbreaking "Thriller" | April 27, 2008 | AHN

Zitat von Prometheus

Produktiver gings wohl nicht?

Treffender kann man die Gesamtsituation wohl nicht beschreiben!

die Gesamtsituation könnt ihr garnicht beschreiben ! Michael ist angeblich pleite, ist abhängig von anderen usw. sind alles Dinge was ihn vorher nicht belastete, zumindest nicht in den angeblichen Zahlen. versetzt man sich in seine Lage, frage ich mich nur " Was würdest du machen in seiner Situation " Michael macht sich sicherlich mehr Gedanken wie er wieder ganz neu starten kann und gleich einen Volltreffer in die Musikwelt zu setzen.Das muss schon Hand und Fuss haben nach der schrecklichen Vergangenheit.Betrachte mal den Musikmarkt, wo bleiben den die Künstler.Einiges schön und gut aber nicht
lange von Dauer,und hat sinnlosen Inhalt.
Michael war schon immer anders und singt von Herzen nicht nur um Geld zu verdienen, sondern der Welt die Augen zu öffnen aber das begreifen leider nur sehr wenige.Seine Ausdruckskraft in der Musik hat die ganze Welt berührt und den Status zuhalten braucht man nach all der Zeit "gute, zuverlässge Mitarbeiter.Es wurde erwähnt, das die Angst vorm Versagen eine Rolle spielen könnte, sehe das nicht mal so falsch.
Trotz allen Vermutungen sehe ich Michael niemals am ENDE sondern am überlegen " was kann ich noch mehr der Welt bieten " Ein Künstler wie Michael
hat es nicht leicht aber aufgeben wird er niemals