Unreleased Tracks & Co. / Der Werk-Katalog [zukünftiger Inhalt]

danke dir !

** ok also ausser "work that body" und "happy birthday Lisa" konnte man sich alle tracks schon auf Mjtunes anhören . ... wäre ja echt mal nen feiner zug von den franzosen wenn se die mal rausrücken würden ..

edit : hab grade was gefunden : http://youtube.com/watch?v=dT6zyDpXrQw

Naja nich wirklich spannend...2 unbekannte Sachen. Mich würde viel mehr die 91 Promo zum Dangerous-Album interessieren mit Man in Black!!!

Zitat von Korgnex

jup, und die ganzen unveröffentlichten jerkins-tracks, von denen einige ende 2002/anfang 2003 nochmal überarbeitet wurden
sowie der originaltrack von mj, der in diesem "gangsta" benutzt wird
und ick will die dangerous demos endlich digital remastered

ach ja, was man sich net alles wünschen kann

Ok, geb ma mail! Ich schick dir das zeug rüber.;D

However, Nishas big musical break came in 2003 when she was discovered in the parking lot of the Arizona State Fair and grasped the attention of the celebrated Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was so impressed by Nisha’s voice that he decided to record with her, something he had never done in the past with anyone.

Nisha Kataria - Official Website

Zitat von Korgnex

hm, kommt mir bekannt vor - is ne ältere meldung, oder?

btw, wo haste denn das wieder ausgegraben?
mjno?

Steht doch da: Von der Homepage von Nisha Kataria.

Zitat von Korgnex

so hab ich das net gemeint, wie bist du denn so plötzlich auf deren seite gestoßen?

Ich hab danach gesucht ...

Auf der Seite von Nisha Kataria, welche mittlerweile von Dieter Wiesner gemanaged wird, kann man in einige ihrer Songs hineinhören, das Duett mit Michael ist nicht dabei ...

Zitat von TLC

das Duett mit Michael ist nicht dabei ...

schade irgendwie

und wieso is`n das bild so klein

da kann man wie immer nur wieder abwarten.

Richard Altomare talks about unreleased music collection (60 tracks)

This past Sunday Richard Altomare of Universal Express held a voice conference to give an update on the company, and he talked quite a bit about the Jackson memorabilia auction. He is still spinning everything in overdrive so as not to make the company look bad, but the most interesting part is what he said about the unreleased track collection Universal Express is currently in possession of (now said to be around 60 tracks). Two of these tracks were previewed in low quality during the conference and at the end he actually thanked the Jacksons for allowing him to play the snippets, and indicated that they have been in communications and may possibly join together on an endeavor to get this music released to the public in the near future.

I am including summaries of all of the points he spoke of below, along with my own commentary afterwards. The points after the ***’s are about the unreleased music collection and the most interesting, the rest is just general talk about the litigation and auction.

Sunday, July 22, 2007
Richard Altomare – Universal Express

- Claims that Universal Express did not initially pay out $5-7 Million to obtain the Jackson collection, but they will pay that much if they are successful in selling the aspects of the auction. "We will not be paying $5-7 Million if it were not successful. Our contracts are very clearly based upon how much we get in revenues." [MY NOTE: This shady 'contract' agreement is what caused Universal Express to be found in contempt of court by the Las Vegas judge. During the conference speech, Altomare skipped right over this fact and in fact tried to blame the auctioneer, instead of his company.]

- Claims that Universal Express received $30-50 million in publicity as they moved a "small portion" of the Jackson memorabilia collection out to Vegas for the first auction. [MY NOTE: This statement seems just as bogus and far-fetched as his original claim; that the first auction was expected to net (and was appraised for) $30-$200 million. Aside from a couple brief reports on several entertainment shows and one morning show, this auction actually received very little press attention and Universal Express itself received even less (in part due to the fact that it was not endorsed nor promoted by the Jacksons themselves). Only 75-100 people actually attended the auction.]

- Claims that all the lawsuits and litigation Michael and family filed against them in Vegas has actually ended up "positively" for Universal Express the company. [MY NOTE: Universal Express lost the bulk of the case and were ordered to pay back Michael Jackson's legal fees, a $2,500 fine for being in contempt, and more. They did spend millions in preparation of the first auction and Richard Altomare anticipated sales many tens of millions more than what resulted.]

- Claims that all of the withheld items were dictated primarily by the New Jersey district over the Las Vegas district, and that those items "were owned" by Universal Express and that they "will come back" to Universal Express. [MY NOTE: There was a hearing at the end of last week in New Jersey regarding proper ownership of this collection and of the items in question. The final decision of that hearing is still unclear, but at the beginning of the week the Las Vegas judge did find Universal Express in contempt and ordered Michael Jackson's items be returned to him.]

- Says that they did not get to auction off as much as they had hoped to in the first auction. They are still waiting to hear some "final numbers" from the auctioneer that they can agree to because there are discrepancies. As soon as they have a final total from the first auction, they will announce it. [MY NOTE: Universal Express and the auctioneer have been disagreeing with the totals since the day after the auction. The real problem is that Universal Express just doesn't want to accept the fact that the auction netted pennies compared to what they anticipated and what they told all their shareholders and partners the auction would likely bring in.]

- Claims that they never expected the first auction nor the items sold at the first auction to bring in the bulk of the proceeds that they originally anticipated (and still do anticipate). [MY NOTE: The first auction netted less than $700,000. The first night of the auction, Richard Altomare of Universal Express went on the record as saying that all the items up for sale were of 'museum quality' and estimated sales of at least $5-10 million. Again, he grossly over-estimated and is not happy with the end result.]

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- Claims that they now have in excess of 60 unheard, unreleased songs by the Jacksons. Recently, Don King has been working with Universal Express to communicate with the Jacksons about this music collection. There is belief that, as a result of this ongoing communication, the Jacksons might "join forces" with Universal Express for some "very exciting future opportunities" involving the collection, an endeavor that Universal Express claims would "dwarf our earlier predictions of what that revenue could be." [MY NOTE: A month ago, Universal Express claimed to have 'over 23' unreleased songs across '138 master tapes.' The 'unreleased' count has now nearly tripled. Based on this information and other hints, I am led to believe that the Jacksons may indeed be working with a division of Universal Express on this possible unreleased music endeavor. I still think that Altomare is grossly exaggerating how much this could bring in, however.]

- Claims that they will be meeting with major record producers in New York City this week to preview these songs, and are optimistic that these songs could in the very near future be made public.

- Claims that after items are returned from the first auction, they will do either one of two things. 1.) Sell the entire collection to one purchaser with whom they are speaking to, for “substantially more money than you or I thought we’d be getting at the beginning.” 2.) Have another auction. This auction will occur only after “our partners, hopefully including those who may be litigating against us today [Jacksons]” work together with us.

- Richard Altomare previewed about a minute each of two unreleased Jackson tracks in low quality, one of which was an extended demo recording of “Enjoy Yourself” and another which I could not recognize. He concluded by saying, "I want to thank Michael, Janet, and the Jackson 5 for allowing me to play small little excerpts of that song today... Even though we own it."

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These song snippets can be heard at: YouTube - Two unreleased Michael Jackson family track snippets

Source: TSColdman, MJNO

Zitat von Korgnex

Die zweite Demo ist THINK HAPPY (1976 vom ersten Jacksons-Album THE JACKSONS)

Allerdings äußerst unspektakulär diese Snippets, sind halt nur nicht die finalen Takes fürs Album, aber von "Demos" kann man hier nicht sprechen.

Die ganze Auktion scheint ja ne Riesenpleite zu sein. Ich würd mich net wundern, wenn sich diese "Demos" (60 sind's ja dann auch nicht mehr, sondern weinger :lol) ALLE als Takes von Songs herausstellen, die wir längst kennen.

Schade, schade, dachte, wir bekämen wirklich einige unveröffentlichte Schätze in naher Zukunft mal zu hören (gesetz dem Fall natürlich, dass der Käufer sie denn teilen würde).

Alles anzeigen

Im Großen und Ganzen stimme ich dir hier natürlich vollkommen zu. Die beiden "Demos" sind tatsächlich unspektakulär, aber immerhin etwas für Sammler.

Ich gebe weiterhin die Hoffnung nicht auf, dass unter den anderen "unreleased Songs" tatsächlich so einige sind, die wir noch nicht kennen. Soweit ich es verstanden habe, müssen diese tapes nichts zwangsläufig versteigert werden, sondern können eventuell als CD herauskommen, womit man sicherlich auch mehr Geld machen könnte. Da ist es dann sicherlich auch verständlich, dass man für ein "Preview" nicht gleich die besten Songs nimmt. Gerade folgender Absatz lässt mich zu dieser Vermutung kommen:

Zitat

- Claims that they now have in excess of 60 unheard, unreleased songs by the Jacksons. Recently, Don King has been working with Universal Express to communicate with the Jacksons about this music collection. There is belief that, as a result of this ongoing communication, the Jacksons might "join forces" with Universal Express for some "very exciting future opportunities" involving the collection, an endeavor that Universal Express claims would "dwarf our earlier predictions of what that revenue could be."

- Claims that they will be meeting with major record producers in New York City this week to preview these songs, and are optimistic that these songs could in the very near future be made public.

Ich denke das auch. Wenn man gerade mit den ungehörten Schätzen (die die noch net in irgendeiner Weise puplik sind) irgendwie Geld machen kann, dann wird das sicherlich auch so geschehen. Wozu sollte Jemand, der die Dinger vielleicht für viel Geld erworben hat die einfach so raushauen, nicht mal als Preview!Also ich könnte mir das nicht vorstellen. Da wird sicherlich drüber diskutiert wie man diese Sachen am Besten der Öffentlichkeit zugänglich macht, und noch was dabei verdient. So ist es dann im Endeffekt auch viel interessanter...

Unreleased Michael Jackson Dangerous Spec. Edition bei Ebay?

MICHAEL JACKSON - DANGEROUS BERNIE GRUNDMAN ACETATE
UNRELEASED SPEC ED. DISC 2! PROMO! SHE GOT IT

Bernie Grundman Mastering - MICHAEL JACKSON "DANGEROUS" [BONUS DISC]

You are bidding on an extremely rare mastering acetate CD-R from Bernie Grundman Mastering of the "DANGEROUS SPECIAL EDITION (DISC 2)" By Michael Jackson.

This is probably the most sought after Michael Jackson CD on the planet right now. Containing 6 never before released songs

This CD was planned for release with the Dangerous special edition album, but was canceled because Sony felt that a 2 Disc package would to expensive to produce, and they wanted to keep the prices for all the special editions the same. The reason the Dangerous album was planned to be a 2 disc set is because the album itself has 16 tracks, so there is literally no more space on the CD to put any more material. (This wasn't a problem with Off The Wall, Thriller & Bad). An acetate of the Bonus disc was produced, but the plans to create this 2 disc package were quickly shelved - meaning that only around 6 copies of this acetate were ever produced during the initial mastering stages.

Grab yourself one of the rarest Michael Jackson CD's on the planet!

NOTE: THIS IS A CD-R ACETATE. THESE ACETATES ARE CREATED ON CD-R's AS A MASTER REFERENCE.

:::MINT CONDITION:::

:::TRACKLISTING:::

1. Bumper Snippet (Kid P)
2. Monkey Business
3. Work That Body
4. If You Don't Love Me
5. Serious Effect
6. Happy Birthday Lisa
7. She Got It
8. Black Or White (Remix)
9. Dangerous (Alt. Version) **the demo of dangerous
10. Who Is It (Remix)

MICHAEL JACKSON - DANGEROUS BERNIE GRUNDMAN ACETATE en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 23-Nov-07 11:10:08 Paris)

Mal sehen was der Patrick dazu zu sagen hat :D:D