na das wird ja einige geier freuen...:/
Michael Jackson Bad album set for re-release (Snippets S. 59)
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Laut Bruce Swedien handelt es sich hier um eine der besten Balladen die MJ je komponiert hat.
Nur weder eine Ballade noch als bester MJ Song kann ich den Titel einstufen.Trotzdem gefällt mir der Song im Ganzen. Ein schöne Melodie mit einigen tollen Höhepunkten, vorallem das Ende gefällt mir.
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Ich LIEBE dieses Lied schon beim ersten Hinhören...
*Dahinschmelz*
Genau das Lied von dem Bruce gesprochen hat... Das ist sicher Mike am Piano...
Einfach nur großartig...Weiss wer ob mans auf Itunes kaufen kann... irgendwer auf nem anderen Forum hat das behauptet... kann aber nichts finden im shop...
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ich finds eher flach, mir fehlt die power in dem song, er klingt eben wie er ist - roh.
mehr als 'ganz nett, aber bedeutungslos' kann ich da nicht sagen.
hat schon seine gründe, warums nicht aufs album kam.
mike hatte nen feines gespür für große werke.
vielleicht wäre es ausbaufähig, wenn 'el maestro' selbst hätte nochmal überarbeiten können.
so aber ists nichts weiter als ein leckerchen für eingefleischte fans
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Was ich an dem Son Wahnssin finde ist, wie er eindrücklich den fliessenden Übergang von Thiller über Bad zu Dangerous demonstriert.
Der Song ist definitib bearbeitungsbedrüftig, aber vielleicht mit einem anderen Beat (bzw. weniger akkustischen Instrumenten oder dominanterem Schlagzeug) sehe ich dafür definitiv einen Platz auf Dangerous.
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Hört sich an wie eine der rohen Demos die Michael selber im Encino "Studio" zusammengeklimpert hat.
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vom Flair her... leichte Ähnlichkeit mit nem Cascio Track... Burn tonight......
Nur ist dont be messin round 10 mal besser!!! -
Was ich an dem Son Wahnssin finde ist, wie er eindrücklich den fliessenden Übergang von Thiller über Bad zu Dangerous demonstriert.
Der Song ist definitib bearbeitungsbedrüftig, aber vielleicht mit einem anderen Beat (bzw. weniger akkustischen Instrumenten oder dominanterem Schlagzeug) sehe ich dafür definitiv einen Platz auf Dangerous.
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wieso nochmal? ^:tatort -
DBMR erinnert mich stark an die Dangerous-Demo
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http://soundcloud.com/szarkad/michael-jackson-dont-be-messin
hier gibts das endlich mal komplett.
Haut mich nicht so um. Tönt etwas nach Fahrstuhlmusik. -
http://soundcloud.com/szarkad/michael-jackson-dont-be-messin
hier gibts das endlich mal komplett.
Haut mich nicht so um. Tönt etwas nach Fahrstuhlmusik.habe oben schon den youtube link gepostet
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01 juin 2012
[h=1]EXCLUSIVE: Don’t Be Messin’ Round – A Review (EN)[/h]
Presented as the first unreleased track off the BAD 25 campaign to be presented to the public as a bonus cut on the forthcoming I Just can’t Stop Loving You single, Don’t Be Messin’ Round is a song that already has a history among MJ fans and connoisseurs. Way back in July 2009, legendary sound engineer and longtime Jackson collaborator Bruce Swedien revealed to columnist Roger Friedman that the track was just – simply put – mindblowing: « Michael plays piano on it, and it’s just beautiful. » He added: « Oh my God, there’s nothing like it. » He also stated that Jackson plays the piano on it, a feat that has always been underestimated (he also plays drums on Morphine and keyboards & synthesizers on the lost and underrated track Children’s Holiday, a song Jackson penned for the Japanese band J-Friends in 1998 and also recorded on his own).
So far, the sole book to document the song was Chris Cadman’s & Creaig Halstead’s reference book (yet unmatched in UK and the U.S.) For The Record. A very short snippet of the song has been leaked on YouTube. But that was it. Until now.
Swedien made it clear that the track was intended for the Thriller album. It finally did not make the final cut. Jackson had a history – like other artists – to develop a song and to discard it at the very last minute to keep the whole set of songs as tight and coherent as possible. The left off songs happened to be cornerstone and iconic ones that were shaped for further releases. Earth Song, first intended for the Dangerous album under the working title What About us was reworked and polished with the help of Slash for HIStory.
Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round is a track that had been in the pipelines many times. It was first considered for the Thriller album, the BAD, and then for further projects. But the version to be released is the actual mix crafted in 1987. Sound engineer Matt Forger mixed the song for the BAD 25 project and made it clear that the song will be presented « as is »: « I mixed the « Don’t Be Messin’ Round » track from tapes of that era. No new parts were allowed, not even parts that were recorded after ’87 but still done under Michael’s supervision ».
Composed and produced by Michael Jackson, Don’t Be Messin’ Round is part of the demos Jackson spent enough time on to draft several strong melodic and rhythmic ideas. The chords and the rhythm of the track are quite reminiscent of the sunny and cool mid-tempo version of P.Y.T. (the original demo that surfaced in 2004 on the The Ultimate Collection box set). Some ideas and notes also sound like the ones already heard in Straatwalker, especially in the verses. Jackson sings most of the lyrics in yogurt, meaning that he still had a few steps to go before he could include the song on one of his abums. At 2:23, Jackson dives into the « bridge » section of the song, that actually is – in this version – an instrumental section. The catchy and sunny hook is back and heads to the fade-out of the song. Don’t Be Messin’ Round is another door open to Michael Jackson’s unique creative process. The King of Pop was used to tape melodic ideas – orally – on a tape recorder and then get musicians to help him craft the track, layer after layer.
Don’t Be Messin’ Round is a treat just before the actual BAD 25 set hits the shelves. The Estate of Michael Jackson and Sony Music have joined forces to gather genuine and untouched recordings from the iconic times of BAD. Ok, there will be some remixes as well. When it comes to Kings of music, we shall have an eye on some of the the win-win projects by the Estate of Elvis Presley. In 2002, they released this great remix of Just A Little Conversation by JXL. It was the sole new remix included as the final track of a cool greatest hits packaghe. This remix sold the whole set. It may just take one cool, hard, club banging remix to make the re-release of BAD a celebration of the original Michael with a bridge towards the new generation. To be continued…Richard Lecocq
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"Swedien, whose book In the Studio With Michael Jackson arrives July 27, describes one unreleased song, Don't Be Messin' Around, as "a medium-tempo piece, with Jackson playing piano. And he does it well."
(http://www.usatoday.com/life/m…eased-jackson-music_N.htm)
So hats Swedien gesagt... nicht Ballade sondern "Midtempo song mit Mike am Klavier"..... ich denke, das kann man so GENAU gelten lassen!!!
Ein weiteres Juwel für mich ausm Tresor von MR. Jackson...*ICH FREU MICH TOTALST*
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wieso nochmal? ^:tatort
Ich sehe das so, weil von den Stilmitteln her alle drei Alben repräsentiert sind.
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Ich sehe das so, weil von den Stilmitteln her alle drei Alben repräsentiert sind.
hä? deswegen musst du das 2mal posten...? *kopfkratz*
post #686 und #689
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Bei mir wird das nur ein Mal angezeigt. Kannst gerne eine "Kopie" löschen.
EDIT: Ich dachte du fragst mich nach einer Begründung zu meiner Meinung, so à la , wieso nochmal kommst du darauf?
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Alles anzeigen
01 juin 2012
[h=1]EXCLUSIVE: Don’t Be Messin’ Round – A Review (EN)[/h]
Presented as the first unreleased track off the BAD 25 campaign to be presented to the public as a bonus cut on the forthcoming I Just can’t Stop Loving You single, Don’t Be Messin’ Round is a song that already has a history among MJ fans and connoisseurs. Way back in July 2009, legendary sound engineer and longtime Jackson collaborator Bruce Swedien revealed to columnist Roger Friedman that the track was just – simply put – mindblowing: « Michael plays piano on it, and it’s just beautiful. » He added: « Oh my God, there’s nothing like it. » He also stated that Jackson plays the piano on it, a feat that has always been underestimated (he also plays drums on Morphine and keyboards & synthesizers on the lost and underrated track Children’s Holiday, a song Jackson penned for the Japanese band J-Friends in 1998 and also recorded on his own).
So far, the sole book to document the song was Chris Cadman’s & Creaig Halstead’s reference book (yet unmatched in UK and the U.S.) For The Record. A very short snippet of the song has been leaked on YouTube. But that was it. Until now.
Swedien made it clear that the track was intended for the Thriller album. It finally did not make the final cut. Jackson had a history – like other artists – to develop a song and to discard it at the very last minute to keep the whole set of songs as tight and coherent as possible. The left off songs happened to be cornerstone and iconic ones that were shaped for further releases. Earth Song, first intended for the Dangerous album under the working title What About us was reworked and polished with the help of Slash for HIStory.
Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round is a track that had been in the pipelines many times. It was first considered for the Thriller album, the BAD, and then for further projects. But the version to be released is the actual mix crafted in 1987. Sound engineer Matt Forger mixed the song for the BAD 25 project and made it clear that the song will be presented « as is »: « I mixed the « Don’t Be Messin’ Round » track from tapes of that era. No new parts were allowed, not even parts that were recorded after ’87 but still done under Michael’s supervision ».
Composed and produced by Michael Jackson, Don’t Be Messin’ Round is part of the demos Jackson spent enough time on to draft several strong melodic and rhythmic ideas. The chords and the rhythm of the track are quite reminiscent of the sunny and cool mid-tempo version of P.Y.T. (the original demo that surfaced in 2004 on the The Ultimate Collection box set). Some ideas and notes also sound like the ones already heard in Straatwalker, especially in the verses. Jackson sings most of the lyrics in yogurt, meaning that he still had a few steps to go before he could include the song on one of his abums. At 2:23, Jackson dives into the « bridge » section of the song, that actually is – in this version – an instrumental section. The catchy and sunny hook is back and heads to the fade-out of the song. Don’t Be Messin’ Round is another door open to Michael Jackson’s unique creative process. The King of Pop was used to tape melodic ideas – orally – on a tape recorder and then get musicians to help him craft the track, layer after layer.
Don’t Be Messin’ Round is a treat just before the actual BAD 25 set hits the shelves. The Estate of Michael Jackson and Sony Music have joined forces to gather genuine and untouched recordings from the iconic times of BAD. Ok, there will be some remixes as well. When it comes to Kings of music, we shall have an eye on some of the the win-win projects by the Estate of Elvis Presley. In 2002, they released this great remix of Just A Little Conversation by JXL. It was the sole new remix included as the final track of a cool greatest hits packaghe. This remix sold the whole set. It may just take one cool, hard, club banging remix to make the re-release of BAD a celebration of the original Michael with a bridge towards the new generation. To be continued…Richard Lecocq
(mjdatabank)Finde ich nur bedingt gut, alles was nach '87 daran gebastelt wurde aussen vorzulassen. Wenn von MJ noch höchstpersönlich gemacht, würde ich mir diese letzte Version des Songs wünschen und von mir aus die 87er Demo als Bonus.
(Habe die Demo noch nicht gehört, warte bis ich die CD hören kann). Edit: Michael hat es sich ja auch nicht nehmen lassen, für Thriller 25 "For all time" fertigzustellen (vor allem Bridge). Deswegen denke ich, dass Michael sicher auch die letzte von ihm abgesegnete Version eines Songs veröffentlicht haben wollte.Das selbe gilt wohl auch für Chicago 1945, Get Around, evtl. weitere Songs und nicht zuletzt das bereits veröffentlichte Cheater '87 wovon es soweit wir wissen mindestens eine 2001 Version gibt.
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Ganz ehrlich: Wenn überhaupt ist das eine Demo auf dem Weg zu einem ganz netten, belanglosen Song. In diesem Zustand für meine Ohren überhaupt nichts. Macht aber nichts, als Kreativer weiß ich, wie viele Ideen man hat, um sie dann doch wieder zu verwerfen. Und daher sehr richtig und sehr gut, dass der Song so auf keinem Album landete. Wenn ich allerdings an Do You Know Where Your Children Are, Escape oder Slave To The Rhythm denke... Das sind starke MJ-Songs und das lässt mich hoffen, dass doch noch ein paar nette, uns unbekannte Werke das Licht der Welt erblicken!
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