"Vindication day"-5 Jahre nach dem Freispruch!

Traurig nur, dass Michael selbst diesen Jahrestag nicht mehr erlebt

ja mir geht das auch sehr nah das er nach den freispruch kein richtiges leben mehr aufnehm konnte ist schon schlimm genug das es überhaupt zum urteil komm musste wir können uns nur vorstellen wie er darunter gelitten hat

Wahsinn, dass es schon 5 Jahre her ist.
Ich weiß es noch, als wäre es gestern gewesen.

Das war so krass damals. Ich es immer noch auf Video.

..ja..hab mir das nochmal angeschaut...und nun..5 Jahre danach bangen wir wieder um "Gerechtigkeit für Michael"...:depri

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Ich werde nie diesen Tag vergessen, als ich einen Anruf bekam udn bevor der jenige auf der anderen Seite was sagen kann, sagte ich noch Not Guilty!!!! Und dann kam auf der anderen Seite yes. Ich habe total geweint, aus freude, aus erleichterung und voller hoffnung das es nun endlich vorbei ist. Jetzt sind es 5 Jahre her, kaum zu glauben.
Jetzt 5 Jahre Später kommen wieder Gerichtsverhandlungen aber mit Traurigen bewandnis, das ist fast Unerträglich.

Ich weiß noch genau wie schlecht mir war, als ich vor dem TV die Urteilsverkündung live mitverfolgt habe. Das waren so grauenvolle, nervenaufreibende Momente!!!
Heute ist es so, dass mir auch übel wird, wenn ich alte Aufzeichnungen vom Prozess sehe und vorallem wenn ich mir Aufzeichnungen vom 25.06.2009 ansehe. Das alles wühlt einen innerlich so extrem auf, dass man sich nur noch übergeben könnte!

Michael Jackson Not Guilty! Und das an meinem Geburtstag.

Was ich mir gerade beim Videoschauen so gedacht habe ist, wie Michael wohl reagiert hat als er im Auto saß?? War er nur still da gesessen oder hat er geweint? Was meint ihr?

..als er aus dem court kam wirkte er völlig weggetreten..so wie wenn er das gar nicht selbst erlebt...oder nur von oben das Schauspiel betrachtet..:sad

..Nik..schwer zu sagen..ich denke nicht, das er geweint hat...zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch nicht..

Ich denke auch nicht, dass er geweint hat. Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass er einfach nur im Auto saß und aus dem Fenster schaute. Ohne etwas zu sagen.

Soweit ich weiß hat er im Auto noch nicht geweint, da lief alles noch wie ein Film in ihm ab. Später hat er aber geweint wie ein Schlosshund

Woher weißt du, dass er später geweint hat??

Eine schreckliche Zeit war der Prozess. Die Urteilsverkündung... ich habe damals irgendwas auf RTL angesehen, als unten am Bildrand plötzlich "Urteilsverkündung im Jackson-Prozess" entlanglief. Meine Güte, da war eine Panik in mir ausgebrochen. Ich bin völlig verwirrt und irre durch das Wohnzimmer gehüpft und habe nicht gewusst, welcher Sender nun der Beste für sowas sein könnte, habe mich dann für N24 entschieden (oder war es n-tv? Ich weiß es nicht mehr...). Ich hatte schweißige Hände, mein Herz raste... dann kam Michael an... ich weiß noch, wie ich ihm "durch den Fernseher" zugerufen habe "Michael du schaffst das! Gleich ist alles vorbei!". Dann kam die Verkündung: NOT GUILTY! Geschrien wie am Spieß... bei jedem NOT GUILTY wurde es immer lauter! Und dann kam Michael irgendwann raus... von hinten stützte ihn sein Vater, (was mich sehr erstaunt hat - ausgerechnet DER...) und Michael schien nicht mehr von dieser Welt zu sein. Der Arme war völlig fertig und ich hatte den Eindruck, dass er gar nicht kapiert hat, was gerade passiert ist. Irgendjemand der Jackson-Familie (ich glaube Labertasche Jermaine) hat in einem Interview erzählt, dass Michael im Auto auf der Hinfahrt zum Gericht sehr nervös gewesen sein soll, aber kein Wort geredet hat.
Ich glaube, es hat einige Zeit gedauert, bis er verstand, was los war. Ich meine, 7 Tage auf ein Urteil zu warten ist schon ganz schön heftig. Und dann noch das Schicksal eines Lebens in den Händen von Geschworenen.... Michael muss die ganzen Tage echt ein nervliches Wrack gewesen sein. Mir hat er so leid getan... Jetzt, 5 Jahre später jährt sich auch noch fast sein erster Todestag. Es ist so schrecklich. Wenn ich an die letzten Jahre zurück denke, kommen mir nur noch die Tränen. Ihm wurde alles zerstört in seinem Leben. Sein Traum Neverland wurde sein Alptraum, seine Karriere wurde zerstört - eine LEBENSAUFGABE, sein ganzes Leben wurde ihm genommen - damals schon. Michael musste sich vorgekommen sein, wie ein gejagtes Tier... Mir tut das echt weh, wenn ich an diese Zeiten zurückdenke und ich hätte ihm so sehr gegönnt, dass er mit seinen Konzerten jedem das Maul stopft. Er hätte es geschafft, aber es sollte einfach nicht mehr passieren...

"Weinet nicht an meinem Grabe
Gönnt mir die ewige Ruh'
Seht was ich gelitten habe
eh ich schloss die Augen zu"

R.I.P. My sweet Angel. I will always love you!

Zitat von BigNik

Ich denke auch nicht, dass er geweint hat. Ich kann mir gut vorstellen, dass er einfach nur im Auto saß und aus dem Fenster schaute. Ohne etwas zu sagen.

Also im Buch von Aphrodite Jones stand, dass nach der Urteilsverkündung eine einzelne Träne über Michaels Gesicht lief. Sie war doch mit im Gerichtssaal, oder?

Tja, schon echt heftig, dass es schon 5 Jahre her ist. Ich kann mich noch erinnern, dass ich die ganze Zeit wusste, dass er freigesprochen wurde. Das soll nicht heißen, dass ich keine Angst hatte, aber über die ganzen Wochen vorher hat sich bei mir so ein Gefühl aufgebaut, dass ich mir 100% sicher war, dass es nur diesen einen, positiven, Weg geben kann. In die andere Richtung habe ich gar nicht gedacht, ich war zuversichtlich, dass er freigesprochen wurde. Etwas anderes konnte ich mir einfach nicht vorstellen und etwas anderes existierte auch nicht in meinen Gedanken.

Leider ging das Michael wohl genau anders herum, verständlicherweise. Es ist so schrecklich und unmenschlich, dass er durch diese Hölle gehen musste. Trotzdem hat er sich mühsam in's Leben zurück gekämpft und gerade, als alles wieder gut schien....kommt der 25.06.09....

Ich weiß noch, dass Michael direkt als er nach dem Freispruch nach Hause kam (Neverland), ein Truthahnsandwich verdrückt hat. Laut Jermaines damaligen Erzählungen.

Quelle: MJJC

Neues Interview mit Thomas Mesereau

Zitat von Indra

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This is from the reflection on the dance webpage. It's the webpage's creator, Deborah Kunesh who interviews Mr Mesereau. I'm in personal contact with Deborah and she's done such a good job on this page and talking to a lot of people who have been involved in Michael's life. Let me know if you have any questions and I will ask Deborah them for you.

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]"Attorney Tom Mesereau, Jr, is highly respected in his field. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Widely recognized as one of the best trial lawyers in the country, Mr. Mesereau has been selected by his peers as one of "The Best Lawyers in America" and has been listed as one of the "One Hundred Most Influential Attorneys in California" by the Los Angeles Daily Journal. These are just a couple of his accolades.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Mr. Mesereau represented Michael Jackson in his 2005 child molestation trial (he replaced attorneys Mark Geragos and Benjamin Brafman), and has very poignant insight on Michael, and the trial.[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: Deborah Kunesh
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]What kind of client was Michael? What was it like working with him?[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: He was a very delightful client to work with. He was very cooperative, he listened, he was very respectful of me, and attorney Susan Yu and our staff. The worst thing I can say about him is that sometimes he was inaccessible. Sometimes he was difficult to find, and I think part of it was he was so terrified and fearful of this process, but he was a delightful person to work with.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I imagine that would be horrifying having people saying these kind of things about you. How did he handle all of the stress that came with that?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: I think it was very difficult for him. You know, I used to talk to him often, early in the morning because my schedule was that I would get to bed, usually at 7:30, sometimes latest 8 o clock and I was up at 3, with no fail every day. Michael is a person who would often be up early in the morning and walking through Neverland to relax and get close to nature and look at the sky and the moon and stars and he would call me often at 3 or 4. He was suffering from anxiety, clearly he was at times very depressed, and he was having sleep problems. This is all normal for someone who was facing serious criminal charges like he was.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]When I intereviewed Aphrodite Jones, she mentioned that the prosecution had called witnesses, had called friends and people that were close to Michael, and that he had a hard time with some of that, with some of what they said?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: It was a dreadful experience. It was painful, it was horrifying, he couldn’t believe that he was listening to some of the statements that were made. He couldn’t believe anybody would accuse him of harming children. He couldn’t believe that they would ever accuse him of masterminding a conspiracy to falsely imprison a family, to abduct children, to extort. These are things that Michael was not capable of even imagining and to formally charge him with this and then to call witnesses who clearly were not telling the truth, to try and build a case against him, was frightening and very disheartening for him.

[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The trial went for over 4 months?[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: It was almost 5 months. It started Jan 31st and ended mid-June.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]How often would you go to trial each week?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: 5 days a week
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[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]When the not guilty verdicts were being read, how did Michael react? [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: That particular day he looked horrible. His cheeks were sunken in, (he was) walking very weakly. He looked horrible. He didn’t say a word until the last “not guilty.” There were 14 “not guilty’s”. 10 felonies and 4 lesser-included misdemeanors. Then we hugged and he said “thank you.”
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Before that last day of trial, where these verdicts were going to be read, I heard that you had felt pretty certain that they would exonerate him. Was it just a feeling that you had?[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: I had a very strong feeling that this jury was not going to convict him. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]First of all, you have to understand California law and procedure regarding criminal trials. In California, twelve people sit as jurors in a criminal trial. California law requires a unanimous jury verdict to convict or acquit someone of a crime. This means that all twelve jurors must agree to convict one of anything. It also means that all twelve jurors must agree to acquit someone of a charge. If the jurors cannot unanimously agree to convict or acquit, the jury is set to have “hung” on that particular count. This means that the prosecutors can retry that count before an entirely different jury.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Obviously, if the jury convicts a defendant of a single count, or more than one count, this is usually considered a prosecution victory. If the jury acquits on all counts, this is a defense victory. If the jury were to convict on some counts and acquit on others, it would usually be a prosecution victory. If the jury were to acquit on some counts and “hang” on others, this would be considered a defense victory. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Michael Jackson was originally indicted on ten felony counts. At the end of the trial, the judge added four misdemeanor charges. For the last four felony counts against Michael, the jury had two options. If they acquitted Michael on any of the last four felony counts, they had the option of convicting him of a misdemeanor. In other words, the jury was asked to either convict, acquit, or disagree (“hang”) on fourteen charges.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I never expected Michael Jackson to be convicted on any count, felony or misdemeanor. I believed, and still do, that he was completely innocent of these false charges. However, one never really knows what a jury will do. The jury was composed of twelve people whom I did not know. Because the trial lasted five months, I was able to observe their movements, demeanor and reactions to the testimony and evidence. I was firmly convinced that the prosecution could not get twelve people to convict him of anything.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I did not know if the jurors would unanimously acquit him of each of the fourteen charges. Nobody could possibly know this. However, when I heard that the jury had unanimously reached an agreement on each of the fourteen charges, I knew in my “heart of hearts” that he had been acquitted of everything. This prosecution was a travesty of justice and one of the most mean-spirited attacks on an innocent person in legal history.”

[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]the fourteen charges, I knew in my “heart of hearts” that he had been acquitted of everything. This prosecution was a travesty of justice and one of the most mean-spirited attacks on an innocent person in legal history."[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]What is the difference between being acquitted and being “not guilty”?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: There is no difference between being acquitted, and being found "not guilty."
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Editor’s Note:[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] To acquit, according to dictionary.com is to relieve from a charge of fault or crime, to declare not guilty. When Michael was acquitted of the charges, it means he was found not guilty by the jury. Michael was acquitted of all 14 charges, meaning he was found “not guilty” on all counts. The jury could either have convicted him on each charge, or acquitted him (found him “not guilty”). If the jury could not unanimously decide on a particular charge, the jury may be hung and they may have retried him on that particular charge.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ac.quit–verb (used with object), -quit⋅ted, -quit⋅ting.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]1.to relieve from a charge of fault or crime; declare not guilty: They acquitted him of the crime.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Is there anything specific that you want to share about Michael, about who he was? What you would like the public to know about Michael and about the trial?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: Michael Jackson was one of the nicest, kindest people I’ve ever met. He really wanted to do more than just be a musical genius. He wanted to heal and change the world through love, through kindness, through art and through music and I do believe the world’s a better place because he was with us.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]He was very gentle, very kind. There was, I sort of describe it as a universal Michael and Michael the individual. There was the universalist Michael who wanted to change the globe. Wanted to see the entire world focus on children and he felt that if children were properly loved and cared for that we would significantly reduce the violence in the world, significantly reduce the meanness in the world, significantly reduce poverty, and all of the world’s most important problems. He felt that the way to do that was to focus on the world’s children. So that’s the universalist Michael who thought he could heal the world through music, through love, through humanitarian measures. He was one of the greatest humanitarians in world history. He actually is in the Guinness Book of Records as one of the largest donors to children’s causes, which the media doesn’t like to focus on. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There also is the individual Michael, who I dealt with, who was a person, and he loved to see a child smile. He built Neverland to see children happy. He was one of the wealthiest men in the world. He could have spent all of that money selfishly. Instead he had a zoo, he had an amusement park, a theatre, he had statues devoted to the world’s children. If you looked at the artwork in his house, a lot of it centered on children and seeing them happy and respecting them for who they were. Their race, their religion, what part of the world they were from, what kind of native traditions they had. This was someone who as a person, loved to see a child smile. Loved to see a child from the inner city who was growing up in poverty and violence come to Neverland and look at a giraffe and smile and look at an elephant and smile. Get some free ice cream and just be happy. It just meant a lot to Michael because he was a very good person. But unfortunately when you’re that much of a genius, and you’re that wealthy, all of the sharks are going to come forward, and when you combine with that a certain level of naivety, a person who just didn’t want to be wrapped up in money matters all of the time or legal matters. He wanted to do creative things, he wanted to do humanitarian things. That makes him even more of a target for frivolous lawsuits and frivolous claims.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]This is great because I really want, through this, for people to see who he really was and I think that’s so missing now[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: Of course, because the media wants shock value and they want to see people go down in flames and they were desperately hoping he would be convicted because it would mean stories for years about what he looked like and how he was doing in prison and was he going to kill himself. Believe me, they were salivating over his conviction and they were trying to skew all of the reporting in a way they hoped would influence the jury to convict him. Even a lot of cheap shots at me throughout that time.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Oh, really?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: Oh sure.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]That’s so sad that the world is like that, you know what I mean?
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: Everybody was hoping to profit off his destruction. It was terrible. It’s one of my proudest moments in my lifetime….just acquitting him, vindicating him. In retrospect now, he only had approximately 4 more years to live, at least he was there to be with his kids and just to be vindicated. The trial was so unjust. The case was so unjust and lacking in credibility.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: At his burial, which I attended, a young man who in the 80’s was a rather high profile case in southern California, a father doused his son with gasoline and set him on fire and burned most of his body including all of his face (this man is now known as Dave Dave, formerly David Rothenberg ). Michael took care of him. He (Dave Dave) got up to speak (at Michael's funeral) about what a kind, decent, generous, wonderful person Michael Jackson was. I happen to know there were kids all over the world he did this for. Disabled kids, children with illnesses and disabilities. Michael would write checks for them and nobody publicized it. He didn’t do it to become well known for doing it. He did it because that’s what his heart wanted him to do. You know? I think one of the cruelest things that ever happened was to take his love for children, his desire to help kids, and turn it against him and try and call him a monster as they did in that trial. It was just horrible. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]You’re going right for what’s one of the most important things for a person and you’re turning that against them.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]TM: It was just heart wrenching to be there and watch him and to see it, you know, what toll it took on him. I don’t know if he ever really recovered from it emotionally. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]

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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]DK: [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I imagine that would be something very difficult to overcome. Thank you for everything you shared with me."[/FONT]

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Da wird man doch glatt wieder wütend...Es ist sowas von unfassbar...

mich macht es unendlich traurig ... und für tom`s fantastischen einsatz fehlen mir einfach die worte ...